M1860 infantry, M1868 Raupenhelm, M1871 3 GRzF 6 Komp

flasheart

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Gents,

Some recent acquisitions, all Franco-Prussian War era helmets:

M1860 infantry helmet, all complete and in very good form. The wappen is secured by domed split pins, they appear as old as the helmet so may be period, I don't think they are modern. My Oldenburg M1860 is secured with screw posts. The wappen is the 125mm bandeau version and the kokarde is the correct large size state kokarde. Superb liner, no pullthroughs.
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M1868 Bavarian Raupenhelm. I have actually picked up two of these in the past month. This is an infantry helmet, the other is a Jager version. All original, very nice, and again a very nice liner.
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M1871 pickelhaube marked 3 GRzF 78 2B for 3 Garde-Regt. zu Fuß, 2nd Battalion, dated 1878. This one has a very deep dark patina on all the brass components and wear on the highlights of the garde wappen. Again, nice form after 130 years. The helmet lacks the garde star, the chinscale rosette on the left side, and one of the brass nuts for the rear spine. Some leather wear/fragility of the inside of the rear visor. Again, an excellent liner, very supple, no tears or pull throughs, I think as good as you would get on this pattern. There is a paper label inside and I have been trying very hard with flash, UV, daylight etc to read it, but all I can see clearly is '6 Komp' for the 6th Company.


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Just to break the routine, here is my M1862 Dreyse Zundnadelgewehr (Needle gun). I hope that in the next couple of weeks I can add a M1841 Dreyse to the collection; a piece I have been seekign for a long time.

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Mike
 
Mike- I thought I was bad, but I think you purchased more then me in the last week or so!

Nice stuff!

James
 
Guys,

I am now looking for some small parts to complete the M1871 helmet:

- garde star for the M71 garde eagle,
- brass chinscale rosette on the left side
- brass nuts for the rear spine.

Can anyone help?

Mike
 
do you or have you ever fired the needle gun? Is that 11 or 14 caliber. It must kick like a juiced up mule.
 
The Dreyse is 15.4mm calibre with an ovoid projectile and a papier-mache sabot; so the projectile does not actually engage the rifling. No I have never fired the Dreyse, although it would be fun! I have many more long guns from a Frederick the Great era Prussian Model 1740, 1st Model Brown Bess to Napoleonic muskets, the Franco Prussian War Chassepot and Dreyse, through to WW1 Mausers, Mannlichers, and Lee-Enfields, and I have never yet fired one of them.

Mike
 
Hi Mike Congratulations

Your M 1860 is very good, all pieces look genuine, no PB !

Your M 71 is excellent to....! Good base for restoration

and the Bavarian is ....excellent !

Lucky man !
 
Hi Mike...great job on restitching the rear visor of the Garde helme! Congrats! Brian
 
Guys,

I anticipate delivery of a very nice Model 1841 Dreyse Zundnadelgewehr (the very first pattern of Dreyse Infantry rifles) early next week. When it arrives I will post some pictures.


When I mentioned it to a friend last week, his pronunciation of the name 'Dreyse' was different from what I had always used. The name doesn't come up very often in every day conversation so there is no way to check which is correct.

Can some of my German friends help me here? Is the name 'Dreyse' pronounced like:

Drice (ie, like rice or price or splice), or is it pronounced

Drease (ie, like grease or fleece or piece)?


Mike
 
Chas,

Of course!! It is obvious when you see it written like that and then say it with a German accent.

I also had to apply my knowledge of American linguistics to figure what you actually meant by 'Dray-suh'. The phonetic 'Dray-suh' would sound very different when spoken in clipped-Bostonian, Texan-drawl, Minnesotan-Scandinavian, Midwest-twang, Louisianan-Cajun, New York-wiseguy, or American Jewish grandmother.

And as an added bonus, here are the photos of my newly acquired 1854-dated Dreyse (Dray-suh) Model 1841 Zundnadelgewehr, the very first of the Dreyse patterns. Not perfect and the barrel browning has long since gone, but still a very rare beast.

Mike

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