M1910 Kratzchen for review

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lugerfan

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Hi all,

I have been trying to track down a decent WW1 German cap to add to the collection, any chance of an opinion on this one please. Not sure on the printed markings inside, Rgt.89 seems a little odd?

There are red and black felt pads behind the cockades, which I think is a good sign?

Thanks for any comments

Lugerfan....

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I only own one of these and I am no expert on them. However, I have never seen one with kokarde stitching done horizontally, it is always vertical. The feldgrau cloth overall looks too fuzzy to me but again, I am no expert, this is just my impression from what I see. To me this is a re enactor piece....modern. Plus that "Regt 89"..... I have never seen any original Imperial German items marked like that. Last, no sweat stains on the liner.
 
b.loree said:
I only own one of these and I am no expert on them. However, I have never seen one with kokarde stitching done horizontally, it is always vertical. The feldgrau cloth overall looks too fuzzy to me but again, I am no expert, this is just my impression from what I see. To me this is a re enactor piece....modern. Plus that "Regt 89"..... I have never seen any original Imperial German items marked like that. Last, no sweat stains on the liner.
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thanks for the feedback, pretty sure it was a repro or re enactor. The seller had an excellent returns policy, so it was a useful lesson. Onwards and upwards in the search for a good one.. cheers
 
lugerfan ;
Do you live in the States
If so try the S O S 2017 at Louisville , Ky.
I would bet there would be one there
If not you will sure meet people who can help you

Steve
 
The problem with one you posted is the liner. I can solve your problem.

Here are three textbook originals. I will sell you one of these if you wish. $475 USD each + postage.

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/headgear/fgch02.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/headgear/fgch03.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/headgear/fgch01.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tony
 
Very nice Krätzchens Tony ! :thumb up:
If I didn’t have those already, I would be ordering right now.
 
Tony without Kaiser said:
The problem with one you posted is the liner. I can solve your problem.

Here are three textbook originals. I will sell you one of these if you wish. $475 USD each + postage.

Tony
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Oh no! You are selling three killer caps from your collection and I'm flat broke?? ](*,)

Field grey caps like this are impossible to find!
 
b.loree said:
I only own one of these and I am no expert on them. However, I have never seen one with kokarde stitching done horizontally, it is always vertical. The feldgrau cloth overall looks too fuzzy to me but again, I am no expert, this is just my impression from what I see. To me this is a re enactor piece....modern. Plus that "Regt 89"..... I have never seen any original Imperial German items marked like that. Last, no sweat stains on the liner.
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The horizontal vs vertical argument comes up often, but I do not buy into that. All of the caps I have owned have had the Kockarden sewn on vertically, but looking at Tony's photos, two of the three offered here have the Kockarden sewn on horizontally.
 
Tony without Kaiser said:
The problem with one you posted is the liner. I can solve your problem.

Here are three textbook originals. I will sell you one of these if you wish. $475 USD each + postage.

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/headgear/fgch02.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/headgear/fgch03.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/headgear/fgch01.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tony
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Hi Tony, thanks for your reply and the kind offer, apologies for the slow response from my side but have been on vacation with very limited web access. Have sent you a PM,

cheers
 
Hi all,

just wanted to give big thanks to Tony for his help in filling a hole in my collection, he kindly agreed to sell me the Bayern Infantry Krätzchen from his collection. some pictures below from Tony's site....

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The original cap posted in this thread is a fake. The maker marking has been copied from an original cap and a rubber stamp made. l had posted many of my issue caps on other websites and found to my dismay that all of the nice markings were being lifted and used to make reproductions. I had a talk with the seller/maker and he agreed to stop using the stamps he made from my caps, but anyone could do this. It's very disheartening. Carl Bangert was a legitimate period maker and I have a cap made by him, though the style of this stamp is different than the one in my cap. The regimental stamp is completely wrong.

Chip
 
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