M95 pair , but what part's are who's

zipperheads9

zipperheads9

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High need some help just aquiered 2 m95's I think they are m95's) .One is a Prussian Infantry and the Other is a Prusian Kugel. The pair came together and was purchased from a WW2 veteran, so I am told.
I think some part's were switched as the Pearled Spike is on the helmet with the visor marked to FAR %^ and the other Helmet with no obvius marking's has the kugel.
The Spiked one was marked as an NCO helmet the Spike is short and has a pearl ring , one set of split pins is slightly higher than the other.One of the Wappen looks to be frosted.
One has the front visor trim missing, I have it but need retaining pins.
The price was very reasonable the shells are both in great shape , with a little cleaning the helmet's will be buetiful. Both have original chinstrap's but only one has original cockarden.

Nco Infantry Spike on Artillery body.
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Markings on rear visor of this helmet.
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Side , note short spike but pearl ring.Also the M(! mounts
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Interior of this helmet
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The next set if the Kugel toped helmet.
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The interior of this helmet
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Here are the pair front's and sides
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I am trying to figure out what is what with these 2. I would like to straighten them up. Any help would be greatly be apreciated.
There 2 owner's on these 1 is mine the Kugelhelm and another forum meber has the other. I had to share as I did not have enough for both and did not want to split the Kugel from it's shell , hope i got that right.
Both came in at $1100 CDn.
I have added photo's and some differnet ones in hopes that visual recognition will help.New pics in a couple day's
Mark
 
zipperheads9 said:
Helloooooany help
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Mark, What are you after for info? The spike on the FAR helmet does not belong there at all, that is a private purchase spike on an issued helmet. Not a big deal, as the spike is nice, and all the owner needs is a Kugel top.

What else? T
 
The tops are traded the Kugelhelm is now with kugel. The other spike is now on the other body.
These are question's i have specfaclly .
The Kugelhelm -it is to an Artillery Regiment and dated 1898 , it has a wider m91 side mount than the other's in my collection. .Does this mean this should have a set of Chinscales as apposed to a chin strap?
What are hte other markings on the rear flap a 1A , a boxed 3.B. , and a II .
The other helmet had a cilded wappen and side mounts and the interior of the spike was also gilded , all the gilding has been polished off , by previous person. There are no makings that i na find.It is heavier in wieght , but only has a 8 fingered liner with round tip finger's . I have read all that i can on the sites I have listed for helet research and am lost as to where this helmet fit's .Is it a war time One tear volunteer or a Private purchase Mannshaft? The spike is not higher than the one on my other Infantry M95 .
I would like to know more of the second helmet as the trim is missing for one of the 2 helmet , if this helmet is private purchase it could be missing trim , as it sit's now the kugel is sans trim.
The trim on the Infantry pattern helmet is loose and would fit the Kugel.
decent pictures to come of marking's , parts in question
The 2 interior plates were slightly different one had round hles and was a bit smaller and the other had slits instead . also the sine on the jugel had a 2 stamped at the top under the spike, again this could br from the other helmet .
I hope this makes more sense .
Mark
 
OK OK, sheesh!

zipperheads9 said:
The Kugelhelm -it is to an Artillery Regiment and dated 1898 , it has a wider m91 side mount than the other's in my collection. .Does this mean this should have a set of Chinscales as apposed to a chin strap?
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Originally, yes. But I also have a nice FAR with the wide M91 lug. http://www.kaisersbunker.com/hp/hp21.htm

zipperheads9 said:
What are hte other markings on the rear flap a 1A , a boxed 3.B. , and a II .
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No idea. II could be a Garniture, or a Batterie?

zipperheads9 said:
The other helmet had a cilded wappen and side mounts// Is it a war time One tear volunteer or a Private purchase Mannshaft? .
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I say it is an issue helmet with an incorrect private purchase spike. I vote ditch the spike and get an issued one on there. You will not see anything but an issued helmet with a finger liner. But that is one odd looking liner??

Is this one yours? I can trade you an issued spike for that private purchase one. T
 
Thanks Tony :D .The Spike and that hauben are not mine but I will ask the owner if he wnats a trade. The chicken the side lugs and the spike base all show sign's that they were once gilded.
U have traded parts and have cleaned them up , so i will retake pic's to show the helmet's and tops' . The FAR helmet has 7 finger's and shows an older repair, I am not sying Military but it looks old .
Thank you for the link to the mount question .I am guesing that it can have either chinstrap or chinscales? I have yet to measure the mounting hardware for both haubes.
Again Thank;s again Tony. It is a little frustrating when i read all i can ask question's and can not get answers , or even responces.
Mark
 
Here are pics of the proprt tops and marking's on the FAR59 Kugel .If anyone can suggest how to clean the inside to get marking's to show would be greatful.

Inside maker
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Rear right visor
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Still need cleaning but shell is better
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The mounts for the strap are just over 2mm , tough to call.They fit well on mount's though.
Also any info this Arttilery unit and where it was assigned?
Thanks
Mark
 
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