SkipperJohn
Well-known member
Here is my new Model 1867 Prussian Infantry Pickelhaube:
It is in unbelievably good shape showing very little wear other than some minor shrinkage:
Typical for all Model 1867's it has only one Kokarde:
Also typical for the Model 1867 it does not have a rear spine:
What is not so typical is that the Wappen is held on with screw posts and not sliders. I am not sure why, but I'm certain many purest's would frown on this. Also the Wappen appears to be just slightly too large for this helmet. The Prussian Wappen size was reduced from 125mm (top of crown to tip of tail feathers) down to 120mm in 1860 to accommodate a reduced helmet size. This Wappen is 124mm. The Wappen had formed a groove in the front visor behind the chinscales. When I carefully removed the Wappen to see if sliders had ever been attached and to see if the slider slots were still present on the helmet I found that I could not get the Wappen to stay in the groove it had made any longer (live and learn).
The Wappen is the proper three tail feather type, "vVv" found on M67's and there is no indication that it ever had sliders, only screws. Also there is no indication that the helmet had the metal slots for sliders, only holes.
The liner of this helmet is in pristine condition for it's age:
There are no markings on this helmet what-so-ever; no size, no unit, no maker, no name, absolutely nothing.
Overall I am pleased with this Model 1867. I just wish I had a few more answers.
John
It is in unbelievably good shape showing very little wear other than some minor shrinkage:
Typical for all Model 1867's it has only one Kokarde:
Also typical for the Model 1867 it does not have a rear spine:
What is not so typical is that the Wappen is held on with screw posts and not sliders. I am not sure why, but I'm certain many purest's would frown on this. Also the Wappen appears to be just slightly too large for this helmet. The Prussian Wappen size was reduced from 125mm (top of crown to tip of tail feathers) down to 120mm in 1860 to accommodate a reduced helmet size. This Wappen is 124mm. The Wappen had formed a groove in the front visor behind the chinscales. When I carefully removed the Wappen to see if sliders had ever been attached and to see if the slider slots were still present on the helmet I found that I could not get the Wappen to stay in the groove it had made any longer (live and learn).
The Wappen is the proper three tail feather type, "vVv" found on M67's and there is no indication that it ever had sliders, only screws. Also there is no indication that the helmet had the metal slots for sliders, only holes.
The liner of this helmet is in pristine condition for it's age:
There are no markings on this helmet what-so-ever; no size, no unit, no maker, no name, absolutely nothing.
Overall I am pleased with this Model 1867. I just wish I had a few more answers.
John