Mrs. Uhlan’s old lingerie

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Broadsword

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On many or Mr. Uhlan’s items. I often see the correct sill liner is missing.

This is typically replaced by some kind of new cloth replacement, always recognizable by the stitching along the inside of the sweat band.

I have never seen this cloth type or stiching on original pieces.

I suspect Mr. Uhlan is busy sewing Mrs. Uhlan’s old lingerie into the inside of helmets as a poorly constructed replacement.

Is this a correct observation?

see

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pickelhaube-Casque-Helmet-Pionier-Offizier_W0QQitemZ250005335638QQihZ015QQcategoryZ34649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
It's difficult to assess the true nature of the fabric due to digital strobing, but the bush league stitching is pretty conclusive. Mrs. Ulan will soon have to wear her union suit to compensate for the lack of unmentionables.

Liebchen, ve need anuzzer pair of ze knickers, schnell!

Chas.
 
I can see what your saying about the liner not being original but the rest of this one does it look assembled ok or original, is this Ulan a ebay seller not too be trusted I can see it has Bidder id kept private this may be an indication.
Sorry I,m still learning.
 
Hey Slayer,
do not be sorry about any question. A hidden bidder ID is a red flag for a bad seller, hidden feedback is another one.
Best wihse
Gsu
 
Broadswaord:
You are correct in your assumption as far as I am concerned. All officer silk liners are tack stitched to the scalloped edge of the calf skin sweat band. This is done to hide the stitching as much as possible and achieve a very nice professional quality finish to the liner. Restitching one of these by hand or even putting in a repro such as this example is a real pain and time consuming. Consequently, Ulan chooses to machine stitch these right round the sweat band and we see the stitching. In one way, he is spoiling an original piece but in another, there is no doubt that the silk is a reproduction and can fool no experienced collector. Brian
 
slayer71 said:
does it look assembled
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Hello Slayer71:

You've broached an extremely important issue regarding this seller.

I don't like the way in which the spike fits to the spike base. It rests on top, indicating it is either cross threaded, or of equal, or smaller, diameter to the base. Conclusion: these respective parts are not original to one another.

Spikeymikey and I have monitored this seller's eBay activity for more than a year, and his modus operandi is to buy a helmet, often a parts helmet, upgrade or cannibalize it, and then auction the results on eBay weeks or months later. Occasionally, he just flips a helmet untouched, but it always sells for a sum significantly higher than his investment. To clarify, it's not the profiteering I object to (no one is forcing people to bid), but I despise the fraud.

I haven't seen everything he has auctioned, but I have seen enough to know I would never bid. The facts demonstrate the seller goes beyond amateurish liner repairs.

Chas.
 
Chas covered this well I think.

Here is another item that bothers me.
This is a picture from the auction listed above.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pickelhaube-Casque-Helmet-Pionier-Offizier_W0QQitemZ250005335638QQihZ015QQcategoryZ34649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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This is a similar picture from our maker's mark listing.
http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/Helmet_Makers.htm
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See the spelling difference? Did this guy spill tea in his helmet too?

Weitze recently (at SOS) had for sale a helmet with an Awes-Marke sticker in the same position. It covered a hole. Weitze was shocked and did the right thing. Could this sticker cover holes? Remember the tea stained mortar helmet stickers?
 
Hi guys thanks very much for the heads up on this one and the seller. I,m still trying to get my head around which is good and which isn,t , ebay is like a minefield.
You may gey lucky or you may get a nasty shock.
I,m not sure if I have seen a half decent untouched one come up on ebay yet ?

Just one other query does a helmet without the chinstrap and cockade make it not worth purchasing or is it still a good piece as long as it is untouched ?

Thanks for all the help.
Adam.
 
Wow, Joe:

You've certainly turned out to be Eagle Eye Fleagle on this helmet. One further comment regarding the split brads retaining the Pionier Wappen. There appears to be a blemish resembling an extra hole filled with leather shavings and epoxy at the 23:00 position of the washer to the left of the Neuman(n) label. Also note the difference in the brads themselves. It all adds up to pause for concern.

slayer71 said:
does a helmet without the chinstrap and cockade make it not worth purchasing or is it still a good piece as long as it is untouched ?
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Hi Adam:

I recently won a Garde Regiment Model 1915 helmet on eBay minus its chinstrap and both Kokarden. However, it was beautifully stamped, "KEGGR3." (Kaiserin Elisabeth Garde Grenadier Regiment 3), and untouched. Chinstraps and Kokarden can be replaced. If the helmet is sound and the price fair, it is always worthy of consideration.

I'll post some pictures of my little M15 soon.

Chas.
 
Hi Adam:

Here are two pictures of the eBay Pickelhaube. Although it was missing a chinstrap and Kokarden, what sold me on this piece was the reigmental marking (the best guarantee a helmet is what it appears to be).

PICT0044.jpg


PICT0046.jpg


My strategy has been to buy and stockpile original Kokarden whenever I can. These are like money in the bank as the demand is high and they make excellent trade bait.

Original chinstraps require the most patience. Outrageous though it sounds, sometimes the only recourse is to purchase an unwanted helmet for its strap and then flip the helmet.

Rest assured, sooner or later, the right helmet for you will appear on the market.

Chas.
 
To return, for a moment, to one of the points I made above. This is one aspect of the speculation game ulan9 plays. With bidder ID kept private, there is no way of knowing whether shill bids have been placed to hike the price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34649&item=6288952133

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pickelhaube-Casque-Helmet-Germany-1890_W0QQitemZ250005347116QQihZ015QQcategoryZ79243QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Chas.
 
Hi Chas nice pickup, this is a good looking original helmet.

This would be one that I would be proud to own have but I don't think I would be confident enough to bid on one listed on ebay yet.

I don't mean to pry but any chance you could let me know what you picked this up for, perhaps pm me if you dont want to disclose this amount.
I only ask just to get a rough idea as to what I should expect to pay.

Cheers Adam.
 
Hello,

I believe Mr. Uhlan often bids on his own items under a different name. Sometimes he ends up being the winning bidder on his own helmet and then has to re sell it again.

Typically there is always some kind of flaw or defect in what he sells.

When you think about it why else would be it be sold on EBay for under 1200 Euros when he could get twice the price in a local German Auction House if he was selling the real thing?

Sub-standard pickehaubes go to the Uhlan House of horrors for
a "re-spray", its a bit like the TV show Pimp my Ride!!!!!
 
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