Neck flaps and a tropical helmet
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joerookery
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I think so. By "standard" I mean to some organizations. I have seen these with BA marks. They were a stand alone item that could be attached.
This is from the Prictor collection.
Have you seen them on field caps too? That is new to me. BTW, I know that very interesting helmet from the pickelhauben.net website (ersatz article), do you know whether there are more pictures of it on the net somewere? That would be very helpful as reference (because of the may f..).
joerookery
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Never.
Not that I am aware of but I have gotten permission to use many pictures of this ensamble. Do this pictures work for you?
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We had a thread about this at some time..... I don't remember.
joerookery
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Robert what does the stamp say?
Excuse me, its a bit small on the picture. It reads "G.M.G.A. 206" and "1917". Actually the material looks ok and for itself it would seem quite fine without the obvious stamp. I got it togather with a helmet which is quite shurely not original either even though its a good repro work (see images: picture 1, picture 2).
joerookery
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Robert,
thanks! This is quite interesting. 206 does not fit anywhere. Can I trouble you for a picture of the front numbers? The wappen so to speak. I find these very interesting. :smilebox:
thanks! This is quite interesting. 206 does not fit anywhere. Can I trouble you for a picture of the front numbers? The wappen so to speak. I find these very interesting. :smilebox:
Shure, no problem at all: The numbers.
I wonder why the maker did not take a GMGA that is known to have been stationed on the Balkan, e.g. 216. And the issue date 1917 seems impossible too for a haube.
I wonder why the maker did not take a GMGA that is known to have been stationed on the Balkan, e.g. 216. And the issue date 1917 seems impossible too for a haube.
Lost Skeleton
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Hi Robert:
Was your helmet purchased through eBay? If so, it was discussed here, and the consensus was the "2" is actually an inverted "7."
I'll try to locate the post in the archives.
Chas.
Was your helmet purchased through eBay? If so, it was discussed here, and the consensus was the "2" is actually an inverted "7."
I'll try to locate the post in the archives.
Chas.
joerookery
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Robert thanks for the pic!
I have no idea. The entire scroll helmet "Conventional wisdom" seems to me to be a little bit shaky. I am not so sure that even Krause has this one right.
I have no idea. The entire scroll helmet "Conventional wisdom" seems to me to be a little bit shaky. I am not so sure that even Krause has this one right.
I used to lean that way also. But now I know that haubes were issued in 1917 and used in the home land. This continued through sometime in 1918 -- probably to the end.
Hey Joe,
The Pickelhaube was not completely replaced by the Stahlhelm, The two M1915s that I have were made in 1917, and 1915 with a BA VIII stamp dated 1918. as far as the neck flaps go on the Mütze, It looks like that same flap shown in the Prictor collection. I think that the benefit of covering the neck and ears would be very appearent to a fairskinned soldier very quickly after arriving in a tropical region, and I would not be suprised to see photos of soldiers with kerchiefs tucked under their caps/helmets.
Gus
The Pickelhaube was not completely replaced by the Stahlhelm, The two M1915s that I have were made in 1917, and 1915 with a BA VIII stamp dated 1918. as far as the neck flaps go on the Mütze, It looks like that same flap shown in the Prictor collection. I think that the benefit of covering the neck and ears would be very appearent to a fairskinned soldier very quickly after arriving in a tropical region, and I would not be suprised to see photos of soldiers with kerchiefs tucked under their caps/helmets.
Gus
Maybe he just didn´t have a "1" handy. I wonder why nobody puts repro neck flaps on real felt helmets, the crowds would be screeching.
I did get it over Ebay, I contacted the seller after his offer went without bids and he was a real friendly guy. He said his father had it a long time and that is probably true. Evidently others had commented the originality too and he offered me a repro discount. I take it as a repro and it´s fine as such, you wont find anything similar for the money (except maybe a GMGA 207 someday).