New purchase.

[johny]

Pickelhaube of an old grenadier. Marked in the center is B.A II. What do you think?

 

[b.loree]

I like it very much, great to have those flat M91 scales and that old grenadier wappen. Congratulations!

 

[Lars13]

Hi Johny,
Congratulations with your helmet.
What surprises me is the light-coloured liner, for a helmet with brass fittings I would expect a black liner. Also the eagle is attached with screws rather than loops, and the split pins of the studs that attach the spike base to the helmet seem very short.
I would not be surprised if this is a field-grey helmet with iron fittings converted to brass fittings (done after WW 1); if that is the case then at least it has been properly done, the helmet looks like everything fits together.
Regards,
Lars

 

[johny]

I didn't think about the color of the insert, your opinion changed it. The eagle screws look like they were originally soldered.
Best regards to all.

 

[Lars13]

The eagle screws look like they were originally soldered.

Hi Johny,
The eagle looks original to me, also the screws, it is just that if this helmet is made early in the war then I would expect the M95 attachment method for eagle to be used, which means loops. Your eagle is the previous model.
Regards,
Lars

 

[johny]

Hi Johny,
The eagle looks original to me, also the screws, it is just that if this helmet is made early in the war then I would expect the M95 attachment method for eagle to be used, which means loops. Your eagle is the previous model.
Regards,
Lars

I didn't quite understand what you meant, but now I know. Thank you for your response

 

[Steve Nick]

Johny:

B.A II indicates Bekleidungs Ampt. (Clothing Depot) 2nd Corps. There were two Grenadier Regiments within the 2nd Army Corps. Number 2 and Number 9. Since the 9th wore the Battle Honour Bandeau "Colberg 1807". Your helmet must be from the 2nd Regiment "1st Pommeranian "Konig Friedrich Wilhelm IV".

 

[johny]

Hi Steve. Thanks for the answer, I was just wondering about the regiment, the pickelhaube comes from Poland.

 

[johny]

I started to look at the eagle and I see some differences that I have marked, a different manufacturer or an officer and regular variety?

 

[johny]

I started to look at the eagle and I see some differences that I have marked, a different manufacturer or an officer and regular variety?

Now I see that the red background is not an officer, so what will be the difference?

 

[johny]

Now I see that the red background is not an officer, so what will be the difference?

Perhaps this is the older type Lars mentioned, one is dotted and the other is smooth

 

[Sandmann]

It’s a variety of an other manufacturer in my eyes. The eagle doesn’t look like a reproduction.
Here is a helmet with a similar eagle plate:

Preußen Pickelhaube für einen Offizier im Grenadier-Regiment Kronprinz (1. Ostpreußisches) Nr. 1 - Prussia - Imperial Germany & Weimar Republic: uniforms, spike helmets, etc. - Military Antiques

Preußen Pickelhaube für einen Offizier im Grenadier-Regiment Kronprinz (1. Ostpreußisches) Nr. 1 Um 1880. Standort Königsberg in Preußen. Lederhelm, komplett mit allen Beschlägen. Vorne der "Schildadler mit Medaillon "FWR" und Bandeau,

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[johny]

I also think it will be the manufacturer, although a red flag goes off in my mind: why only two producers, or does it have a different meaning?

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hello,
The eagle of the "old regiments" fitted the helmets of line grenadiers until 1897. From 97 to 1912, it was gradually replaced by the large eagle with soaring wings. At this time, many FWR (Fredericus-Wilhelm-Rex) Eagles had not yet been modified with brass wire trigger guards.
On the other hand, if this eagle disappeared for the line infantry, it remained for the FAR 1,2,3 and one or 2 others, with fixing trigger guards.
For the difference between Johny's 2 eagles, you would need to have the dimensions, don't forget the FWR eagle of Tchakos of JR 1,2,3...

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hi Johny,
The eagle looks original to me, also the screws, it is just that if this helmet is made early in the war then I would expect the M95 attachment method for eagle to be used, which means loops. Your eagle is the previous model.
Regards,
Lars

Agree with Lars. Here we have an eagle with M1860 attachment (inverted Y threaded rods) but with a natural sheepskin cap M1915.
Probably a mobilization expedient but theoretically this eagle should no longer be on an "infanterist".

 

[KAGGR#1]

It’s a variety of an other manufacturer in my eyes. The eagle doesn’t look like a reproduction.
Here is a helmet with a similar eagle plate:

Preußen Pickelhaube für einen Offizier im Grenadier-Regiment Kronprinz (1. Ostpreußisches) Nr. 1 - Prussia - Imperial Germany & Weimar Republic: uniforms, spike helmets, etc. - Military Antiques

Preußen Pickelhaube für einen Offizier im Grenadier-Regiment Kronprinz (1. Ostpreußisches) Nr. 1 Um 1880. Standort Königsberg in Preußen. Lederhelm, komplett mit allen Beschlägen. Vorne der "Schildadler mit Medaillon "FWR" und Bandeau,

www.weitze.com

I remember that helmet well
I had wanted to buy it
But it was already marked sold when I saw it
1619 before the date of 1655
Steve

 

[johny]

What do you think about it, I like the old grenadiers, they are unbeatable. https://www.weitze.net/militaria/22..._einem_Linien_Grenadier_Regiment__428722.html