OBERST VON RAUMER HELMET

PART TWO: its first owner
In the interior there is a pencil note in sutterlin:
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In a french forum some collectors help me to decypher it:
may be Von RAUMER.
the sames collectors help me to do some searchs about this officer:
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in the rank list he was appointed to 3rd GR until 1912, and then to:
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in the helmet we could find too:
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the city of PILLAU is now the city of BALTIISK, in the kaliningrad oblast.
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a picture of the fortress of pillau (baltiisk)
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pppara said:
hi everybody.
PART ONE:
Here my last treasure
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Grenadier offiecier helmet for 2/3/5/6/10/11/12 grenadier régiment.
First particularity its ventilation system:
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Quite ingenious.
We discussed about it here: https://www.pickelhaubes.com/xf/threads/ventilation-in-officer-helmet.16870/
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Super Cool and great support information
Thanks for the photos and the post .
Steve McFarland
 
pppara said:
PART TWO: its first owner
In the interior there is a pencil note in sutterlin:
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In a french forum some collectors help me to decypher it:
may be Von RAUMER.
the sames collectors help me to do some searchs about this officer:
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in the rank list he was appointed to 3rd GR until 1912, and then to:
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in the helmet we could find too:
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the city of PILLAU is now the city of BALTIISK, in the kaliningrad oblast.
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a picture of the fortress of pillau (baltiisk)
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IMO one of the best posts in a while .
Of course I must admit that I am a Grenadier "Nut "
In my years of collecting I was never able to find an officers
Waffenrock to buy for my collection .
The best that I could do was the collar and cuffs from one .
I do also have a pair of Major's epaulettes
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I do also have a pair of Major's epaulettes
Steve McFarland
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Its quite difficult to find items of the former eastern region of the german empire.
Your pair of shoulder boards are amazing.
 
pppara said:
hi everybody.
PART ONE:
Here my last treasure
View attachment 25675View attachment 25676View attachment 25677View attachment 25678
Officer grenadier helmet for 2/3/5/6/10/11/12 grenadier régiment.
First particularity its ventilation system:
View attachment 25679View attachment 25680View attachment 25681View attachment 25682View attachment 25683View attachment 25684
Quite ingenious.
We discussed about it here: https://www.pickelhaubes.com/xf/threads/ventilation-in-officer-helmet.16870/
Click to expand...
You are right pppara, you have really a treasure. I love it.
 
Thanks for your comments gentlemens.
A fellow collector sent to me the decorations he was awarded.raumer11.jpg
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Among the crown order and red eagle order he was also awarded the china commemorative medal.
The system of ventilation observed on this helmet reminds the one you could see on 0stasiatisches Expeditionskorp helmets.
remember this one:
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it's likely that the OBERST RAUMER has been inspired by its overseas assignment....
I have to do some searchs again to determine the complete career of this officer.
regards
pierrick
 
So....it would seem that this helmet was designed for tropical use?? This would obviously explain the ventilation system.
 
pppara said:
I have to do some searchs again to determine the complete career of this officer.
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Karl von Raumer entered IR 45 as an Avantegeur (Fahnenjunker) in 1879 and was commissioned as a Sekonde-Lieutenant in that regiment on 16 November 1880. Promoted to Premier-Lieutenant on 21 September 1889, he was subsequently detached for service as an instructor at the Bensberg cadet school. On 17 June 1893 he was transferred to IR 141on relinquishing his appointment at Bensberg and was promoted to Hauptmann effective 14 May 1894. He was further transferred to the newly formed IR 175 on 1 April 1897. On 18 August 1899 he was assigned as a company leader at the NCO school in Biebrich from which he deployed with the 6. Ostasiatische-Infanterie-Regiment to China (hence the China commemorative medal). ON return to Germany, he was assigned to GR 3 which brings us up to date. He died as a retired Oberst in 1922.

Regards
Glenn
 
Glennj said:
Karl von Raumer entered IR 45 as an Avantegeur (Fahnenjunker) in 1879 and was commissioned as a Sekonde-Lieutenant in that regiment on 16 November 1880. Promoted to Premier-Lieutenant on 21 September 1889, he was subsequently detached for service as an instructor at the Bensberg cadet school. On 17 June 1893 he was transferred to IR 141on relinquishing his appointment at Bensberg and was promoted to Hauptmann effective 14 May 1894. He was further transferred to the newly formed IR 175 on 1 April 1897. On 18 August 1899 he was assigned as a company leader at the NCO school in Biebrich from which he deployed with the 6. Ostasiatische-Infanterie-Regiment to China (hence the China commemorative medal). ON return to Germany, he was assigned to GR 3 which brings us up to date. He died as a retired Oberst in 1922.

Regards
Glenn
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Great info as always
thanks for the complete post
Steve
 
Hi glenn,
Great, the quest is over ! Thanks a lot!
Could you tell me where and how you find these pièce of informations?
Regards
Pierrick
 
Hi Pierrick,

I was able to determine his career using the “Militär-Wochenblatt” and his entries in the Prussian “Ranglisten”. Unfortunately none of the regiments in which he served had a published “Offizier-Stammliste” which detailed the entire careers of the regimental officers (an often medical and veterinary officers and Zahlmeisters).

Regards
Glenn
 
Thanks a lot Glenn!
I didn't know the "militar wochenblatt". I'll look at this documents if i find them.
I found a polish (former silesia) library on the net which have scan a large number of ranglisten...
Thanks again.
 
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