Original or not?

edwin

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Dear all,

What's your opinion about this kokarde?

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250822736141&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:fr

Regards,

Edwin
 
Speaking of Cockades, I just received what looked to be an authentic EM Reichs Cockade that I had won on eBay US. To my dissapointment, it turned out to be a total flop/fake:
- The RED paint glows under a U.V. light when my other (original) cockades don't
- A small/tiny red paint chip-off reveals a brand new gray magnetic sheet metal (originals were painted all black first then the National Red & White colors were added)
- The ring has new off-white paint to simulate old/worn white color
- Moreover, it doesn't even fit the Pickelhaube M91 side posts as it should (slightly smaller center hole)

I'm returning it and will never buy cockades from eBay anymore unless I know the seller (like the very nice Prussian Cockade I bought from Brian a couple of months ago)... No matter how authentic these look, you could still be fooled as there are some things you can't see before actually holding the item in your hands.

Here's how my cockade looked when I first bought it thinking it was one awesome mint/unissued original piece:
FakeCockade-1.jpg

FakeCockade-2.jpg

I bet the seller will put it back for sale soon... :x
 
RON said:
Speaking of Cockades, I just received what looked to be an authentic EM Reichs Cockade that I had won on eBay US. To my dissapointment, it turned out to be a total flop/fake:
- The RED paint glows under a U.V. light when my other (original) cockades don't
- A small/tiny red paint chip-off reveals a brand new gray magnetic sheet metal (originals were painted all black first then the National Red & White colors were added)
- The ring has new off-white paint to simulate old/worn white color
- Moreover, it doesn't even fit the Pickelhaube M91 side posts as it should (slightly smaller center hole)

I'm returning it and will never buy cockades from eBay anymore unless I know the seller (like the very nice Prussian Cockade I bought from Brian a couple of months ago)... No matter how authentic these look, you could still be fooled as there are some things you can't see before actually holding the item in your hands.

Here's how my cockade looked when I first bought it thinking it was one awesome mint/unissued original piece:
FakeCockade-1.jpg

FakeCockade-2.jpg


I bet the seller will put it back for sale soon... :x

Hi Ron, If you are still interested in a reichs kokarde, I would like to mention that such a kokarde is currently offered by Stewarts military antiques.

http://www.stewartsmilitaryantiques.com/display.php?prodid=19359&cat1=&getcategory=Pickelhauben&session=b029f54f62cd93d0d173ca3e66329357

Regards,

Edwin
 
Hey Edwin,
Thanks; I already saw that one and it looks OK but then again you never know these days...
 
Larry Stewart is pretty good to go… But of course you have to check everything. I would think that Randy and he are good sources. Of course others have their own opinions but I have always been satisfied with everything that I have looked at from these guys. :thumbleft:
 
joerookery said:
Larry Stewart is pretty good to go… But of course you have to check everything. I would think that Randy and he are good sources. Of course others have their own opinions but I have always been satisfied with everything that I have looked at from these guys. :thumbleft:

I agree, its always a pleasure to do business with Stewarts military antiques.

Regards,

Edwin
 
I finally bought their cockade...
Terri seems like a cool person to deal with indeed.
Let's hope it'll make it all the way to me unharmed. :)
 
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