Picklehaube helmet fake???

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gotojordans

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I bought this for my husband (history lover) for a surprise gift. It just arrived and is really really small!! Now I'm thinking this may be a fake. Can anyone help me out?
 

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Looks perfectly fine, have to remember humans back 100 plus years ago where much smaller then us, out of all my years of collecting, I have only found a handful of them that will fit my head.

James
 
J.LeBrasseur said:
Looks perfectly fine, have to remember humans back 100 plus years ago where much smaller then us, out of all my years of collecting, I have only found a handful of them that will fit my head.

James
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James, thank you! This makes me feel better. when it was so small it made me worry it was some type of reproduction!
 
on another note, I will be looking for a chin strap that would have went with a helmut of this type. Any ideas of where I could look or what specifics for the chin strap?
 
Hello,

To me it looks like an original M15 haube. Detailing, and color of all fittings match, liner also looks good.
But what is really small to you? I have 6 M15's none of them fit me, not even the larger sized ones.
So all look small to me too.

To me, this is just a smal size M15 which looks to be original. I see no red flags for it.

Greetings, Coert. :)
 
Coert, thank you for the information. By really small (I'm a petite 5'2" women) and this barely comes down on my head. So now I'm thinking, maybe it was for a younger teen boy maybe?
 
Hi, it might be for a young guy. But James is also correct, people were a lot smaller in those day's.
And, in WW1 a lot of young guy's went to war.
But this helmet is in a correct size for a normal soldier of those day's.
The chinstrap will be a problem finding one though. Most helmets are missing them, and finding an original one can be a real chore,
I heard that sometimes you can find them on Ebay france, but I forgot the sellers name there. Other members here do know that, and they will help you with it.
The kokarden you also need for it will be much easier to find.
Anyway, your husband will be very pleased with the helmet as it is!

Greetings, Coert.
 
For the type you need for your haubes chinstrap, here is one for sale on ebay-us I just found.
So you know what to look for. Metal fittings, steel not brass, and leather strap.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ww1-German-helmet-chinstrap-Pickelhaube/362988012982?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190920091355%26meid%3D319cb197bd834e78bdc77497a67e788e%26pid%3D100036%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D164097366385%26itm%3D362988012982%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100036.m2109
 
I don't even know what a kokarden is!! But I am having fun and very excited!! Thanks for the link, and I'll look for a kokarden too (do I only need 1?)
 
Hi,

You need 2 of them, a reichskokarde on the right side, and a prussian landeskokarde on the left.
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They should look like these 2.
Those can be found rather easily, even some members here can help you out with those.
 
As the guys have said, a nice original model 1915 Prussian enlisted man’s pickelhaube. There often is an inked size stamp up inside the shell eg. 54 which is 54 centimetres. You are also missing one domed spike base split brad. Original leather chin straps are hard to find and expensive, up to $250!
 
Thanks! It is not mine anymore, sold it a year ago. It is a ersatz helmet, made from pressed steel, and using the older type M95 fittings.
Later, they introduced the M15, which used the grey steel fittings. The one pictured was made at the end of 1914, or beginning of 1915. I placed the photo's of that one because it was the first I found..
But you know which kokarden to look for now! :D
 
b.loree said:
As the guys have said, a nice original model 1915 Prussian enlisted man’s pickelhaube. There often is an inked size stamp up inside the shell eg. 54 which is 54 centimetres. You are also missing one domed spike base split brad. Original leather chin straps are hard to find and expensive, up to $250!
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Thank you for your comment and information!
 
gotojordans said:
b.loree said:
As the guys have said, a nice original model 1915 Prussian enlisted man’s pickelhaube. There often is an inked size stamp up inside the shell eg. 54 which is 54 centimetres. You are also missing one domed spike base split brad. Original leather chin straps are hard to find and expensive, up to $250!
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Thank you for your comment and information!
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gotojordans said:
b.loree said:
As the guys have said, a nice original model 1915 Prussian enlisted man’s pickelhaube. There often is an inked size stamp up inside the shell eg. 54 which is 54 centimetres. You are also missing one domed spike base split brad. Original leather chin straps are hard to find and expensive, up to $250!
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Thank you for your comment and information! and I'm also looking for that missing domed brad
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Do not clean it, you should just wipe the dust off it.
Cleaning it, with other things will result in the helmet getting damaged. Be carefull with these old helmets, they are more than a 100 years old.
Leave it as it is. Careful wiping the dust off will do. Anything else will damage the stitching of front, and rear visors. The stitching on those was done with very old cotton. Be very carefull with it. And if you do wipe the dust off it, leave the plate on. The Ghost behind it, will only tell that it is a legitimate helmet. Be carefull when cleaning it!
 
One other thing, make sure the helmet is supported don’t let it sit on the visors. The weight of the helmet can break the hundred year old cotton thread. This is a common problem and I have restitched many. I support my helmets on empty coffee cans but you could use any other means of support. I am sure that your husband will be thrilled with this gift. :thumb up:
 
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