pikelhaube grenadier

[Sergei1877]

found near the village Vidzly Postavy district Republic Belarus.Na ground battles of the First World War.
Unusual strap at pikelhaube

 

[KAGGR#1]

I like the Grenadiers
Petty rare to see a reserve cross on an enlisted Grenadier eagle
Thanks for the photos

Steve

 

[joerookery]

All very true :thumb up: .

Interesting strap.

I'm still looking for steel copies of the other kinds of Grenadier Wappen. let me know if you have a picture.

 

[poniatowski]

Interesting helmet and strap! Looks like some you'd see on fire / civilian helmets. Even though it certainly looks to be the same age as the helmet, I'd wonder if it was used on the helmet in service, as I would expect to find the cockades still beneath it... :-k Very cool example, a beautiful wappen even in its present condition.

Ron

 

[Sergei1877]

Interesting helmet and strap! Looks like some you'd see on fire / civilian helmets. Even though it certainly looks to be the same age as the helmet, I'd wonder if it was used on the helmet in service, as I would expect to find the cockades still beneath it... :-k Very cool example, a beautiful wappen even in its present condition.

Ron

helmet found at the dig, where they were fighting. Strap this was

 

[poniatowski]

Interesting. So this seems to prove that issue straps were indeed at a premium and replacements were wide open. Something to think about with M15's.

Ron

 

[kaiser]

That one has seen better times in the past
Strange strap but now this is a example that sommethimes they went off on regulations
never seen sutch a strap before on a pickelhaube

Jonas

 

[poniatowski]

That one has seen better times in the past
Strange strap but now this is a example that sommethimes they went off on regulations
never seen sutch a strap before on a pickelhaube

Jonas

I've been thinking about this in my slow, muddle-headed way, and it seems to me since this was found intact at a dig, that this type of strap replacement may have been more wide-spread than we think. It seems to be common knowledge that steel helmet 'chinstrap lugs' were sometimes flattened to hold the strap in place (I have one in my collection that is like that), and perhaps with shortages these straps found their way into the field more often than we think. Somebody mentioned a German veteran mentioning removing the chin straps while in the line so they wouldn't get lost and that must have happened quite often (losing the strap).
The crux of this is that all of those 'replacement', 'improper' chin straps that we've been turning our noses up at on M15 helmets might be historically correct. Especially in the case of a veteran bring-back. Although there's no real way to verify this for each helmet, it does bear keeping in mind.
More food for thought.
Anybody else?

Ron

 

[edwin]

Interesting find, congrats

Regards,

Edwin

 

[b.loree]

That is a very cool helmet, in great shape really considering it has been buried for 100 years! It also represents why the stahlhelme was so necessary...a hole right through the wappen and leather...no protection at all.

 

[Sergei1877]

That is a very cool helmet, in great shape really considering it has been buried for 100 years! It also represents why the stahlhelme was so necessary...a hole right through the wappen and leather...no protection at all.

Yes I agree. The wound was serious

 

[kaiser]

This helmet show s exactly how seveire his injury s must have been

No protection what s so ever
This is the example that show s us how hard it must have been in those day s of warfare
I kinda find this helmet a frankenhelmet ,just thinking how the man who was wearing it had lost his life

Dont hate me for those word s above but that helmet is a shaker(at least to me it is)
it gives me the shivers

Jonas