collectibleme
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Hoping I can tap into your expertise. Wondering a few things about this helmet -I have tried online and at our local library and two fellas online told me conflicting origins....so I'm trying you folks that have a lot of interest in pickelhaube helmets.
The kockades are:
white on the outside metal rim, green in the middle and then white under the metal chin strap holder.
On the opposite side it appears it originally had traces of red on the outside metal rim, white in the middle and red under the metal chin strap holder.
Does this signify the origin of the person issued to and the army they were in? What locations would those be?
The writing on the front says as best I can make out:
MD or some letter and W or INW in the far left corner (upper)
89
12 AR - (I think the first) or 12.1R
farther right in a box it says 1891 or 1894 – is this the manufactured date? and do you believe it to be 1894 or 91? is that a pattern date? One person suggested it was a pattern from 1871.
This part is real faint possibly Zeb lll or Rebelll
The back has a light imprint of 55.5 which I assume is the size, but such a small size –was a soldier that small or was this made for a child? Why would they make a helmet for a child? Were they inlisted so young, or in military school, or a child given it as a gift from a enlisted soldier or what would cause a helmet to be so small and is that unusual?
I am interested in a opinion on the chin straps. The one there in full length is 7 ¼ from top to the protruding metal part of the clasp. If I should replace them I’d like to use ones of the same age if you think that’s wise. What would be the cost normally for this, and should I replace both or just the one. Would that devalue the helmet?
How would I get this authenticated, who could do it, and what would something like that cost?
Germanns Fres is on the inside paper label inside the hat..what would have been on the rest?
Ghosang on the brass under rim of the front visor..is that the helmet maker and from what country was that?
The other thing that’s confusing to me is the spike portion. I read they didn’t detach until around 1915, however this has only 2 vent holes, which I think makes it older and it does screw off the top. Is that correct for its age?
Thank you in advance for your time, I know your time is valuable. I have never seen one of these and very excited about it!!!
The kockades are:
white on the outside metal rim, green in the middle and then white under the metal chin strap holder.
On the opposite side it appears it originally had traces of red on the outside metal rim, white in the middle and red under the metal chin strap holder.
Does this signify the origin of the person issued to and the army they were in? What locations would those be?
The writing on the front says as best I can make out:
MD or some letter and W or INW in the far left corner (upper)
89
12 AR - (I think the first) or 12.1R
farther right in a box it says 1891 or 1894 – is this the manufactured date? and do you believe it to be 1894 or 91? is that a pattern date? One person suggested it was a pattern from 1871.
This part is real faint possibly Zeb lll or Rebelll
The back has a light imprint of 55.5 which I assume is the size, but such a small size –was a soldier that small or was this made for a child? Why would they make a helmet for a child? Were they inlisted so young, or in military school, or a child given it as a gift from a enlisted soldier or what would cause a helmet to be so small and is that unusual?
I am interested in a opinion on the chin straps. The one there in full length is 7 ¼ from top to the protruding metal part of the clasp. If I should replace them I’d like to use ones of the same age if you think that’s wise. What would be the cost normally for this, and should I replace both or just the one. Would that devalue the helmet?
How would I get this authenticated, who could do it, and what would something like that cost?
Germanns Fres is on the inside paper label inside the hat..what would have been on the rest?
Ghosang on the brass under rim of the front visor..is that the helmet maker and from what country was that?
The other thing that’s confusing to me is the spike portion. I read they didn’t detach until around 1915, however this has only 2 vent holes, which I think makes it older and it does screw off the top. Is that correct for its age?
Thank you in advance for your time, I know your time is valuable. I have never seen one of these and very excited about it!!!