Prussian Jager Officer's Shako to Parade

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John Josef said:
Great research, it says he was seriously wounded any information about whether he was able to continue to serve after his injury,
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He is listed as Hauptmann in 1918, which means he was aliveat the end of the war, but did not necessarily pursue a combat career. Philippe might be able to find him.
 
If he married in 1921 he can't have worn a helmet most likely made in or after 1922 :)
But there might be a photo from one of the reunions....
 
CLOVIS 57 said:
For me, the manufacturer's stamp, the side vent, and the grain of the leather visible on the inside lead me to believe that this is a traditional post-war shako, used for veterans' ceremonies. Officer's spiked helmets, colbacks, and other traditional military headgear were reproduced between 1920 and 1930 almost identically for veterans and honor guards. I prefer this Shako, infra, without a Schupo-type vent.
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Similarly, the Guard's mitres have been remade by the same manufacturers as before the war. They look similar, but you have to look closely at certain details. The same goes for the colbacks.

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That's your opinion. The side vent is correct I've seen others like this and there is one posted on AOK with the exact same vents, maybe his is post war also? The grain of the leather is correct, and the Prussian Eagle is correct. I respect your opinions, but you have no credible evidence proving otherwise. Chuck
 
It's very hard to see or decipher, but there is additional information that I believe precedes the POSE stamping. Inside the side wall is written 56 1/2. There is what appears to be another name written on the front area of the sweatband. Inside the dome area there is more writing around or under the circular POSE stamping and/or circular 56 size stamping. This writing excludes the Dulong name written.

I'm with Tony, James, and many others, "who knows why that stamp is there?"

Chuck
 
C. Roelens said:
That's your opinion. The side vent is correct I've seen others like this and there is one posted on AOK with the exact same vents, maybe his is post war also? The grain of the leather is correct, and the Prussian Eagle is correct. I respect your opinions, but you have no credible evidence proving otherwise. Chuck
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Hello,

The size of the eagle for Shako is strictly regulated. So is the size of the spiked helmet. You just need to measure it... to know if it conforms... or not.
Best regards.
 
C. Roelens said:
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You are wrong with your suggestion or mention about the adress and some other facts.
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C. Roelens said:
I respect your opinions, but you have no credible evidence proving otherwise.
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Hi Chuck,
You presented your Tschako and asked for opinions, and a considerable number of members has responded. Those with a "post war" opinion have taken the time to show what their opninion is based on, and even though you are in no way obliged to agree with those opinions, I find your negative reactions out of place.
As far as I'm concerned the onus of providing credible evidence is on you, as you have to explain away a clear post-WW1 manufacturer's marking in a supposedly WW-1 Tschako.
Regards,
Lars
 
What ultimately remains important in our field of collecting is that we are satisfied with our acquisitions. We all have a little bit of experience based on more or less meticulous observation and comparison of objects. If you have a good feeling about a purchase, that's the main thing, but that doesn't mean that other collectors won't necessarily have the same good feeling about the same object; that's just the way things are...
For me, a manufacturer's stamp is always the first clue used to date an object and determine when it was made. It is never affixed to an object several years later as it was made. Just my two cents...

A French proverb says: when there is doubt, there is no longer any doubt.
And another one: Everyone sees things from their own perspective. (Chacun voit midi à sa porte).

Philippe
 
Lars13 said:
Hi Chuck,
You presented your Tschako and asked for opinions, and a considerable number of members has responded. Those with a "post war" opinion have taken the time to show what their opninion is based on, and even though you are in no way obliged to agree with those opinions, I find your negative reactions out of place.
As far as I'm concerned the onus of providing credible evidence is on you, as you have to explain away a clear post-WW1 manufacturer's marking in a supposedly WW-1 Tschako.
Regards,
Lars
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Those are not my words! Negative reactions... you gotta be kidding me!
 
At the risk of hurting the feelings of the Frenchmen this is my last post on this thread.

I do appreciate all the comments and opinions provided. I am no expert on this subject, hence my reason for posting for review. I am completely satisfied with the opinions of the experts I've known and respect for a very long time.

Happy Hunting,

Chuck
 
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