Prussian JZP M1915 EM Metalhelme
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looks like a good one!
James
James
RON
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Guys, here are a few concerns of mine:
> The gray paint seems almost gone isn't it; plenty of rust/dark coloring instead
> The liner is dry with some tips torn-off
> Broken tie-string
> Is this the correct spike? (it's a bit different from the regular M15Pickelhaube spike, isn;t it?)
> Isn't this a brass chinstrap?
Do you agree with the above and if so, would you still go for it?
> The gray paint seems almost gone isn't it; plenty of rust/dark coloring instead
> The liner is dry with some tips torn-off
> Broken tie-string
> Is this the correct spike? (it's a bit different from the regular M15Pickelhaube spike, isn;t it?)
> Isn't this a brass chinstrap?
Do you agree with the above and if so, would you still go for it?
I see no issues with it, hard to tell on the chinstrap if it is brass or not from the photo's
I see rust on the buckels, so they are steel. The paint in my humble opinion, is "perfect" for what I would like in my collection. :thumbright:
Liner is still there which is the most important thing, and any remains of the draw cord is a bonus. That is gone on 9 out 10 helmets I have. I would buy this.
Liner is still there which is the most important thing, and any remains of the draw cord is a bonus. That is gone on 9 out 10 helmets I have. I would buy this.
RON
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Hey Brian, just sold 2 of my 3 kidneys this morning so I'm good to go! 
I'm buying the helmet and will try to get a better chinstrap with it--unless you red flag it... It's the one on the Kurassier with the wrong spike that I posted under 'Pickelhaube Discussion' (same seller). It looks OK and in a much better condition, right?
I'm buying the helmet and will try to get a better chinstrap with it--unless you red flag it... It's the one on the Kurassier with the wrong spike that I posted under 'Pickelhaube Discussion' (same seller). It looks OK and in a much better condition, right?
RON
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Hey Adler,
I'm actually trying to swap the chinstrap with that of the Kurassier behind the JZP in one of the pictures. It is in much better condition and looks to be original too.
There's more pictures of that Kurassier--which has the wrong spike otherwise I would've bought it too--and its chinstrap in my other thread under 'Pickelhaube Discussion' should you want to check it.
I'm actually trying to swap the chinstrap with that of the Kurassier behind the JZP in one of the pictures. It is in much better condition and looks to be original too.
There's more pictures of that Kurassier--which has the wrong spike otherwise I would've bought it too--and its chinstrap in my other thread under 'Pickelhaube Discussion' should you want to check it.
Very nice helmet. You made the right choice Ron. The only problem is that the prussian cockade appears to be a copy, and of course both cockades are of the wrong size. Try to find cavalry cockades. Even, to start with, as good repros. These helmets look so much better with the correctly sized cockades...
Bruno
Bruno
RON
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Hey Bruno,
What makes you think the Prussian Cockade is fake? The seller, who's quite trustworthy, assures me everything on the helmet is authentic.
You're right, the large cockades would look much nicer but my understanding is that part of the 1915 regulations, Kurassier and JZP were to wear the regular cockades, although not everyone adhered to this.
And by the way, did anyone notice the higher JZP-style spike? I found this on the net (thanks Andrew):
What makes you think the Prussian Cockade is fake? The seller, who's quite trustworthy, assures me everything on the helmet is authentic.
You're right, the large cockades would look much nicer but my understanding is that part of the 1915 regulations, Kurassier and JZP were to wear the regular cockades, although not everyone adhered to this.
And by the way, did anyone notice the higher JZP-style spike? I found this on the net (thanks Andrew):
The shine, the sharp angles... does not look right to me (compare with the other one). But I may be wrong. And this would not be a reason not to purchase the helmet anyway.
I know about the possibility of small cockades being worn on M15 cavalry helmets, even though I saw no proof for it. But I would always go for the best looking version. It is like having a hessian M15 with a round spike base... yes, these did exist but for me the real appeal of the hessian helmet is the cruciform base, therefore I would not go for anything else. Just my opinion though...
Cheers,
I know about the possibility of small cockades being worn on M15 cavalry helmets, even though I saw no proof for it. But I would always go for the best looking version. It is like having a hessian M15 with a round spike base... yes, these did exist but for me the real appeal of the hessian helmet is the cruciform base, therefore I would not go for anything else. Just my opinion though...
Cheers,
Maple Creek
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I just got this one in today. It's fresh out of the woodwork. I think it's interesting that they were still making these helmets in 1915. I wonder if they were actually used very much.
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