Rarely Hussar 1901

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Hello I can't resist sharing with you this rare hussar Pelzmütze from East Asian Expeditionary Corps or Occupation Brigade troops Troupes d'occup chine 1901.jpg
 
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ww1czechlegion said:
May I ask if you own this busby?

Or is it simply a photo you found on the internet?
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I only collect photos that I find here and there. I try to magnify them then share them for the pleasure of the eyes. This one go from Kube
 
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I'm looking forward to see some expert opinions on this one. Personally this busby simply makes no sense to me. Although there's markings inside and the cockades etc. I've never seen any "hussar"'s photo in China before or after 1900, except photos of hussar officers in the uniforms of their original units. It may just be my ignorance of course.
I'm also thinking it could be an "example" or "experimental" piece.
 
Jvpi said:
I'm looking forward to see some expert opinions on this one. Personally this busby simply makes no sense to me. Although there's markings inside and the cockades etc. I've never seen any "hussar"'s photo in China before or after 1900, except photos of hussar officers in the uniforms of their original units. It may just be my ignorance of course.
I'm also thinking it could be an "example" or "experimental" piece.
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Auction 21 octobre 2023 catalogue N°145
 
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Auctioned 11.Mai 2024. 146.Auktion.
#962.
-5200,-Euro
 

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In any case, for the moment and taking into account the elements that we have, it is not possible to confirm the authenticity of this busby
 
...who knows. Don't know what this book says...
 

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Khukri said:
Auctioned 11.Mai 2024. 146.Auktion.
#962.
-5200,-Euro
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Francis
Thanks for this information
Kube had a Saxon H R that I had a friend inspect in person
It was thumbs down and it didn't sell
I would not buy that helmet
but someone did at 5200 Euro + 25 %
Steve
 
Jvpi said:
I'm looking forward to see some expert opinions on this one. Personally this busby simply makes no sense to me. Although there's markings inside and the cockades etc. I've never seen any "hussar"'s photo in China before or after 1900, except photos of hussar officers in the uniforms of their original units. It may just be my ignorance of course.
I'm also thinking it could be an "example" or "experimental" piece.
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I agree
Steve
 
Standarte-Ostasiatisches-Reiter-Regiment...
They wore the hat.
-And yes...This unit was most probably composed from the several Imperial German Kav branches. Kü; D; Hu; U; J z Pf...All with the same uniform.
 

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Khukri said:
...who knows. Don't know what this book says...
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I looked through the entire book again just to be sure and there is no reference at all of a Hussar Pelzmuetze.

There are many photographs, period illustrations and written text dealing with mounted troops both camel and horse with many beautiful modern photos as well of every type of headgear, uniforms ect ect used but again not a single reference of any kind to Hussars.

It's an incredible volume filled with all types of information on all the German Colonial troops.

Well worth the investment and a must have beautiful volume for any collector or Historian interested in the subject filled to the brim with super rare original items and photos galore(y)(y).
 
John Josef said:
I looked through the entire book again just to be sure and there is no reference at all of a Hussar Pelzmuetze.

There are many photographs, period illustrations and written text dealing with mounted troops both camel and horse with many beautiful modern photos as well of every type of headgear, uniforms ect ect used but again not a single reference of any kind to Hussars.

It's an incredible volume filled with all types of information on all the German Colonial troops.

Well worth the investment and a must have beautiful volume for any collector or Historian interested in the subject filled to the brim with super rare original items and photos galore(y)(y).
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Thank you!
That's the point. When you do not find it in this fine book....it most probably never existed.
 
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Khukri said:
Thank you!
That's the point. When you do not find it in this fine book....it most probably never existed.
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Your very welcome, its rare I have a book you don't so I'm happy to help. (y)

I totally agree if it's not mentioned or shown here, I doubt it was ever issued and since there were no hussar regiments in colonial service, I wouldn't think it was a protype.

I would also think a prototype would be developed with the extreme heat taken into consideration such as adding a neck flap or some venting.
 
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