Rhomboid tank movie!

[joerookery]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A&feature=related

 

[J.LeBrasseur]

looks good, to bad it is only going to be a 15 minute movie!

 

[joerookery]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzk53VoKmtI&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU8HGs_GrRw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hr8Jl_4eGw&feature=related

 

[joerookery]

I asked my oldest how I could see this movie this is his response:

After doing some research, I think you're gonna be disappointed.

It looks like this was a short film by Peter Jackson, director of "The Lord of the Rings" films, entitled "Crossing the Line." It's about 15 minutes in length and was commissioned as a test of a new camera technology. From what I understand, this thing has only been shown at a few trade shows or camera technology demos. I haven't been able to find the full version online, but there are a number of clips out there. It's unlikely, it seems, that you'll get to see this anytime soon -- unless you start work as a grip in the digital film camera industry.

 

[zipperheads9]

Sad but it is only short.This was discussed on a Europen forum i am on and Peter Jackson was only making a short. The tank and aircraft and Guns can be seen on youtube as well at Oakaska (?) Air Show.
Mark

 

[Pierre Grande Guerre]

I liked these clips very much , Mark and Joe!
Besides the original shots of the A7V-tank I particularly enjoyed the shots of the French Renault tank! Forgive me my francophile taste.

It was also the type of tank the US Commander Patton, the later WW2 General, used during the campaign in 1918 at the Butte de Montsec in the Saint Mihiel Salient.

I photographed such a Renault tank at the Compiègne Armistice site.

Here is a 1918 photograph of George Patton before a French Renault tank.

 

[joerookery]

I think there is a real French tank in the Patton Museum at Fort Knox. Real tiny thing.

 

[Robert]

They even gave the sniper a mimikry helmet. But the scope looks a bit large, I think they used only about 4x back then?

I recently received a post card showing a group of armoured cars with wheels (stamped "Panzer-Kraftw. M.G.-Zug 4"). I guess you would not regard this to be real tanks. Do you have any info about the type this might be?

 

[Lost Skeleton]

Hi Pierre:

This is the french Renault at the Patton Museum of Armor at Fort Knox, Kentucky. The museum also has an American made Renault.

Regards,

Chas.

 

[Lost Skeleton]

Do you have any info about the type this might be?

Hi Robert:

According to the reference, Tanks and other Armoured Fighting Vehicles 1900-1918, by B.T. White, the vehicle is an Ehrhardt/17 Panzerkraftwagen MG Züge. Each Ehrhardt carried a crew of 8-9 men, and some of the cars were deployed on the Ukranian front in 1918.

What a fantastic photo.

Chas.

 

[Pierre Grande Guerre]

Chas, thank you very much for these photographs of the tank in the Fort Knox Patton Museum. I am really very glad with these pics.

 

[Lost Skeleton]

Hi Pierre:

This particular Renault was one of two FT-17/18 tanks discovered by Major Bob Redding, USAR Special Forces in a destroyed military depot on the outskirts of Kabul in 2003 and shipped to the Patton museum for restoration.

Chas.

 

[Pierre Grande Guerre]

Chas, it sounds to me like an intriguing story.
How did that F17/18 tank ever came to Kabul in Afghanistan?

I must say, concluding from your pictures, the restoration has been done respectfully and thoroughly. Well done and Chapeau (!) for major Bob Redding!

 

[Lost Skeleton]

Pierre, I believe the tanks were captured from the British Expeditionary Force during the Anglo-Afghan War of 1919. I've located a paragraph regarding the discovery:

http://www.cronaca.com/archives/001511.html

Also:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O48-AngloAfghanWars.html?refid=capsulepage

Chas.

 

[Pierre Grande Guerre]

Thanks, Chas, for such a quick and informative answer!

My intriguing question has been solved. But I think, it is still quite remarkable that the British used these rather small American tanks in Afghanistan in those years around 1919!

 

[Gustaf]

A freind in Montana has a French and an American made Renault, the French one has a nasty bit of battle damage, but the American made one is in running condition with a functional 37mm cannon, I will try to remember to bring a video to SOS next year for the pizza party.
Gus

 

[Robert]

Chas, thanks for the info! With the type its easy to find more about it on the web.

 

[joerookery]

There used to be a male Mark five outside of the museum on a walk. It was in horrible shape and was literally rusting away -- literally.

There used to be a museum annex -- might still be there -- over by the weapons department. That is where they did the restorations. They had a series of World War II German tanks that were in working order. They would parade them annually. They were real picky. We had a trophy BMP 1 after the first Gulf War, but it broke, they were not interested in a vehicle with a blown engine.

 

[Lost Skeleton]

Hi Joe:

The Mark V has been restored, moved indoors, and is now part of a "no man's land" display that includes an attack by German shock troops armed with stick grenades and 08/15 MG.

You'll really have to brighten your monitors to make sense of my picture. The room was huge and barely lit. The tank is in the background.

Here are a few pictures of the U.S. built Renault. I believe it was manufactured by the Ford Motor Company.

Chas.

 

[Wyliecoyote]

That tank in the Patton Museum looks like the one that was recovered in Afghanistan in 2002. Found in a scrap yard, the same one alot of the ersoc bayonets and M18 stahlhelms have come from.

There is one of these in Westpoint also. Saw a nice one not far from Bastogne in The National Museum of Military History of Diekirch, Luxembourg too.