Single epaulette with cypher

[KAGGR#1]

This one that I hope Glenn can I D for me
I have owned this for some time
but never sure who it was for
not a cypher that I know
Thanks
Steve

 

[USN]

Is it the 10th dragoons? Bottom row 3rd from the right appears to be a pretty close match.

 

[KAGGR#1]

Is it the 10th dragoons? Bottom row 3rd from the right appears to be a pretty close match.

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Thanks
I have officer straps from D R 10 ; It's a Saxon cypher on a Prussian strap
as chef of D R 10.Steve

 

[KAGGR#1]

Is it the 10th dragoons? Bottom row 3rd from the right appears to be a pretty close match.

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Mine looks like a " P L " to me
I think that it is for an Adjutant to one of the smaller dukedoms
I have asked Glenn for help
Steve

 

[KIR145]

Mine looks like a " P L " to me
I think that it is for an Adjutant to one of the smaller dukedoms
I have asked Glenn for help
Steve

Steve,
I agree - I think also the monogram is a "P L" or "L P", the rank crown should probably be a Fürsten-Hut.
Greetings Jens

 

[Glennj]

Steve,

nothing so far. And I too agree that it is a "P L". The gold coloured braid is a little strange.

Regards
Glenn

 

[k bandow]

Potentially from Lippe?

File:Royal Monogram of Prince Leopold II of Lippe.svg - Wikimedia Commons

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[KAGGR#1]

Potentially from Lippe?

File:Royal Monogram of Prince Leopold II of Lippe.svg - Wikimedia Commons

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I agree with the cypher , it looks the same to me
but the crowns do not match
I have thrown out a lifeline to Glenn
Steve

 

[pickelhauben]

The only crown that matches is JR 111
But the scroll matches JR 104.

 

[KAGGR#1]

The only crown that matches is JR 111
But the scroll matches JR 104.

Interesting
one is Baden and the other Saxon
Steve

 

[KIR145]

I agree with the cypher , it looks the same to me
but the crowns do not match ...

Hi,
in the catalog "Rang und Dienstgradeabzeichen" (Museum Rastatt, page 11) a similar monogram Paul Friedrich Emil Leopold von Lippe is shown,
the rank crown is also a Fürsten-Hut. (the Inf-Rgt. 111 and the bavarian 2nd Inf.-Rgt. also had the Fürsten-Hut in their chiffre).

I suspect the modern depiction of the rank crown at WikiMedia (Prince Leoplod II) may not be entirely accurate.
Therefore, I also think Lippe (with Prince Leopold II) is very possible for Steve's epaulette.
Best regards, Jens

 

[KAGGR#1]

Hi,
in the catalog "Rang und Dienstgradeabzeichen" (Museum Rastatt, page 11) a similar monogram Paul Friedrich Emil Leopold von Lippe is shown,
the rank crown is also a Fürsten-Hut. (the Inf-Rgt. 111 and the bavarian 2nd Inf.-Rgt. also had the Fürsten-Hut in their chiffre).

I suspect the modern depiction of the rank crown at WikiMedia (Prince Leoplod II) may not be entirely accurate.
Therefore, I also think Lippe (with Prince Leopold II) is very possible for Steve's epaulette.
Best regards, Jens

Jens
Thanks
That sounds correct to me
Steve

 

[Glennj]

Hi guys,

the issue for me is the colour of the thing. An adjutant for a German Prince should have silver halfmoons and epaulette braid. The uniform of the adjutants to the Fürst von Lippe is detailed in an article in the Zeitschrift für Heerekunde from 1937. The cypher is described as a "crowned Latin L".

Regards
Glenn

 

[KAGGR#1]

Hi guys,

the issue for me is the colour of the thing. An adjutant for a German Prince should have silver halfmoons and epaulette braid. The uniform of the adjutants to the Fürst von Lippe is detailed in an article in the Zeitschrift für Heerekunde from 1937. The cypher is described as a "crowned Latin L".

Regards
Glenn

Glenn
Thanks
But it almost has to be for an adjutant because the center is metal pattern ?
Steve

 

[Glennj]

But it almost has to be for an adjutant because the center is metal pattern ?

Hi Steve,

I would agree on that basis. But still a mystery at this point

Regards
Glenn