The Modell 1915 Offizier Pickelhaube

Lost Skeleton

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It was suggested recently, in a sister thread, that wartime officer helmets represented some sort of private purchase, or optional, "conversion" and were equipped with "fake" chinscales. I disagree.

The Modell 1915 was established by AKO directive in September, 1915 and was intended to revolutionize the manufacture of all helmets, Offizier and Mannschaft. All helmets were to be equipped with a ventilated mount for attachment/removal of the appropriate finial, and all helmets were to be fitted with the Knopf 91 system for the attachment/removal/interchangeabilty of chinscales and chinstraps.

The concept was profound, albeit late in the day. By standardizing the hardware, eccentric finial and retainer threads would be eliminated and manufacturers throughout the empire would be conforming to Deutsches Institut für Normung, or DIN, type benchmarks.

To illustrate, this Baden infantry helmet represents an archetype. The integral chinscale rosettes conceal the Knopf 91:

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The finial socket mount is slightly taller than the Mannschaft version to accommodate the officer pearlring:

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Detail of the M15 officer chinscale. The tooling required for manufacturing the new Rosetten and Kokarden indicates a genuine commitment to the perpetuity of the Pickelhaube well beyond 1915. With respect to the M15 Kokarden, I have encountered both silver plated and plain zinc officer rings.

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An exploded takedown view of the same helmet:

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This Württemberg Feldartillerie provides an interesting variant with its cruciform base and vaulted scales:

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Detail of the Kugel socket: The painted kruciform is most likely zinc; all other fittings are brass.

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The two piece Kugel assembly: Like the Baden, both helmets could be fitted with a parade Trichter.

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As testament to concept of the M15, one simple alteration creates a new Baden Fußartillerie helmet. Likewise, the spike can be mated to the Württemberg, and both spike and Kugel fit either pearlring base.

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Chas.
 
Lost Skeleton said:
// The Modell 1915 was established by AKO directive in September, 1915 and was intended to revolutionize the manufacture of all helmets, Offizier and Mannschaft.

Absolutely superb photos Chas. An addition if I may; The M15 officer pickelhaube was also designed to provide a helmet that could be worn in the field with M91 strap and spike removed, and on parade and walking-out with spike and chinscales with the Kriegs und Friedens-Uniformen (War and Peacetime uniforms). My example.

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Hi Tony

Ah, yes; I slobber and get teary eyed whenever I think of that Preussen gem.

Your point regarding the Friedens-Uniform is an excellent one. For those not familiar, The German army intended to retain Feldgrau after the war (but with the former regalia of the Dunkelblau era) Examples of the peacetime uniform are pictured on pages 158 - 161 of the Jürgen Kraus book, The German Army in the First World War.

http://www.militaria.at/index_e.htm

The M15 Officer helmet was intended to be de rigueur in peacetime, and in no way represents privation or material compromise.

Chas.
 
Lost Skeleton said:
The Modell 1915 was established by AKO directive in September, 1915 and was intended to revolutionize the manufacture of all helmets, Offizier and Mannschaft. All helmets were to be equipped with a ventilated mount for attachment/removal of the appropriate finial, and all helmets were to be fitted with the Knopf 91 system for the attachment/removal/interchangeabilty of chinscales and chinstraps.

Chas.

An interesting perspective. As usual I am pointed out as wrong but I believe the AKO in question is the one dated 21 September 1915. It constitutes pages 420 through 422 of the AVB for the year 1915 of the Prussian War minster. I would have expected some substantial discussion about M15 helmets. Unfortunately that is not the case. The vast majority of the AKO discusses the uniform but not the helmet. Paragraph 15 of the AKO in the first sentence talks about the detachable tops. The second sentence of paragraph 15 talks about chin straps underneath Uberzugs. There is no specific mention of M15 helmets. There is no mention of side lugs. There is no mention of the new helmet on any date anywhere in the 1915 AVB. I have posted the relevant paragraph previously. I would like to see this AKO. We can all learn! So where does it say this about ventilation and M91 posts? I am getting too old.
 
joerookery said:
Everything Joe said above.
I cannot seem to find it either. Frustrating. I researched to the best of my ability, but could not nail down the exact date for the introduction of this M15 pattern helmet for officers. There had to have been one though, as Chas inicated, it was not an option, it was policy; and it made sense. Must have been a seperate AKO from the M15 regs? Perhaps an evolution of the M15 regs?
 
joerookery said:
So where does it say this about ventilation and M91 posts?
Joe:

If you're challenging me to produce an AKO that hitherto has eluded everyone, I will not be able to satisfy your demand. You might as well ask me to conjure up the dated and approved patent application for the chinscales in question.

Perhaps a review of Kraus' reference will clarify the issue. On page 37 of The German Army he writes:

"On June 28 1915 it was ordered that in future Prussian helmets were to be made with a removable spike. To save metal, the helmet was also to have a leather chinstrap, and the AKO of September 21 1915 added that the troops' peacetime helmet should also be without scales. Officers retained the scales for the peacetime uniform, but were to replace them with a leather strap when the helmet was worn with a cover. This meant officers' scales now had to be detachable."

The 28.6.1915 decree is also referenced on page 40 of Reiner Herrmann's Militärische Kopfbedeckungen der Kaiserzeit.

The subject had previously been addressed by Jean-Louis Larcade in Casques à Pointe, Tome I on pages 116 - 118. Both Kraus and Larcade mention that attempts had been made to standardize helmet manufacture as early as 1900.

The M15 helmet was soon adopted by kingdoms of Württemberg (10 October 1915), Sachsen (9 November 1915), and Bayern (31 March 1916) [Larcade page 118].

As for the helmets being equipped with ventilated spike mounts and "side lugs," look at the photographs. Since they exist, some entity most certainly authorized them.

Furthermore, I would argue there is no evidence supporting the existence of detachable officer chinscales prior to 1915.

As for your statement "As usual I am pointed out as wrong...," you are entitled to believe anything you choose. If you choose to regard facts as "an interesting perspective," that's of slight consequence to me. My position was that I simply disagreed with you.

Chas.
 
Hello,

In "Deutschland Armee in feldgrauer Kriegs-und Friedens-Uniform"
von Oberstleutnant a. D. Freiherr von den Osten-Sacken und von Rhein
Oktober 1916 :

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and it made sense. Must have been a seperate AKO from the M15 regs? Perhaps an evolution of the M15 regs?

It does make sense -- the adoption of the specifications is frustrating and confusing. I do not think a separate AKO -- but then why would the other war ministers bother? Something happened in the Prussian War Ministry.... I do not yet know what. The paragraph posted is the only original source document I have found on it.
I have the entire AKO -- nothing but frustration -- I don't want anyone to conjure anything up I am just questioning the secondary sources -- there has to be a source somewhere.

Lacarde is the most frustrating of the authors. I wish he was alive so I could ask him. There are several things she says in his reference I just cannot replicate -- I have been working a lot with unit's and I just cannot make his square peg fit my round hole. :twisted: Based on the style at the time he wrote there is no reference.
 
Here is another interesting perspective on the same subject/
On page 37 of Juergen Kraus' excellent one volume book he draws the following conclusion:
This meant officers' scales now had to be detachable.

Yet many examples of Bavarian officers helmets exist in what I would call one half M15 mode. These helmets have bayonet spikes but no M91 posts. They were not detachable. What does that say about the exact language used in KMVOBI number 17? Every helmet that I have looked at like this has had the cruciform base changed.

Seibold in his book on page 86 talks about the posts being used at every opportunity where an Uberzug is used... it sounds like an expansion of the Prussian language but I only have a subset to work with.

Why are there different dates in different secondary sources for the Bavarian order? Just a side trip -- I'm just looking for a little documentation.
 
As to the Bavarian difference....could this not just be yet another example of the Kingdom of Bavaria trying to go its own way and resist Prussian dominance? They dragged their heels on even adopting the pickelhaube to begin with and seem to have spared no opportunity to exert their independence from Prussia even though, they had been forced into subservience by Bismark. Beautiful helmets Chas and Tony!! The closest I ever came to an M15 officer was when I bought a Prussian one missing the spike top. This was early on in my collecting career. I did not really know the significance of an M15 officer helmet. I am ashamed to admit, that I put a normal officer spike top on it and sold it! I still have the M15 base. We are all seeking knowledge here and this is the place to find it! Brian
 
b.loree said:
As to the Bavarian difference....could this not just be yet another example of the Kingdom of Bavaria trying to go its own way and resist Prussian dominance?
Hi Brian:

I'm inclined to interpret Bavaria's temporization in just that light. However, the point should be made that transition to the M15 officer helmet did not occur overnight. Realistically, helmet makers endeavored to expend as much existing stock as possible. It should also be remembered that the use of brass, by directive, was being phased out as well. Consequently, all manner of material and hardware combinations exist. The introduction of the Stahlhelm certainly minimized the urgency for introducing a combat Pickelhaube for officers.

I believe the helmets Tony and I posted (what I refer to as archetypal) were specifically intended for use after the war. I have no idea how many of these Pickelhauben actually saw service in the trenches, but, based on the small number extant, it can't have been many.

A final comment on Bavaria; some time ago I published a review of a Kriegsfilm made in the 1930s. I find these works interesting as the uniforms and equipment are most likely authentic. Below are two frame captures picturing a Bavarian officer wearing a chinstrap with his helmet cover. I suppose the artistic license is that his spike is enormous.

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Chas.
 
Hello,

In "Die Helme der Königlich Bayerischen Armee 1806-1918" , Walter Seibold, Gerd M. Schulz :

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Hi Chas et al. I can testify to the use of a wide variety of material combinations being used as makers tried to use up stocks of brass parts in combination with the M15 style zinc fittings. I have encountered everything on officer helmets from zinc spike base with brass pearl ring with brass spike to all gilt zinc fittings with pre war brass wappen. I have a Garde officer helmet in my collection that meets the last description. The wappen and chin scales are pre war quality brass but all the other fittings are gilt zinc. Brian
 
b.loree said:
I have a Garde officer helmet in my collection that meets the last description. The wappen and chin scales are pre war quality brass but all the other fittings are gilt zinc.
Hi Brian:

Don't forget your Kincardine plunder.

http://www.pickelhaubes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3

Chas.
 
Yes Chas...Taken in better days! Logan is at least 4 inches taller now. Yes, he is a lefty Gus, just like his grandfather. I am a righty, strange how genetics are passed on. I must make a correction to my previous post...the Garde officer chinscaces are also zinc. So wappen is brass but everything else is gilt zinc. I will never sell this one! Brian
 
b.loree said:
This was early on in my collecting career. I did not really know the significance of an M15 officer helmet. I am ashamed to admit, that I put a normal officer spike top on it and sold it! I still have the M15 base.
Hi Brian:

Here's your chance:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Pickelhaube-Spitze-Messing-guter-Zustand_W0QQitemZ280174012315

Chas.
 
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