The Uberzug

b.loree

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Well, I got confirmation on this thread from Tony. I think it should be fun if we can combine original examples of these cloth covers that are in collections with contemporary photographs. Ideally, I think that it would be very cool if members can post their example along with a contemporary photo. This is not mandatory however, lets have as many pics of original uberzugs as we can. I am lucky, in the fact that I have an OR's uberzug from JR52 along with an actual foto of the guys wearing the same numbered cover. I also have an officer cover from JR58 with faded stenciled numbers. I will try to post pics of both but it may take me awhile, as I have to use my schools' scanner for the pics. These covers are very collectable and command top prices especially with numbers present. Brian
 
To start the ball rolling (no pun intended), I offer this original photograph of three Unteroffiziere from Niedersächsisches Feldartillerie Regiment Nr. 46.

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The cover at left bearing the regimental 46 appears to be issued with stenciled numbers. The remaining artillerists appear to be wearing private purchase Überzüge.

From the photo, it is impossible to identify which Bataillon these men represent. The regiment was Prussian, but the 2nd battalion was from Braunschweig. According to Didier Lainé, 1, 4, 5, and 6 battalions incorporated the battle honors, Peninsula, Waterloo, and Göhrde on their Wappen, whilst the 2nd Fahr. Batt. added Colberg 1807 (Lainé, L'Armèe Allemande en 1914, page 201). It's conceivable something like this might be found beneath the cloth (sorry, I don't have the Überzug):

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I've included the Mauser C-96 for those interested in weapons. My rig echoes those in the photo:

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Chas.
 
I originally made this post several months ago along with these pics. I thought that it should be moved to this part of the forum in view of the fact that we now have a thread permanantly dedicated to the uberzug. Note the slits in the cloth at the sides with leather re enforcemnt for the chin strap. Brian
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Another previous post that I am moving to this uberzug thread. This time an officer uberzug from the Hessen Feld Artillerie Regt 61. This cover is unique due to the presence of white cloth tapes with hooks on the ends. As can be seen there are thread loops both on the inside and outside of the uberzug for these to hook on to. Purpose is unknown but obviously, they denote some kind of special designation for the wearer. It has been suggested that these might signify a referee during the annual war games in Germany or perhaps the #1 bombadier on a gun crew. No definative answer as yet. The piece is marked with the usual DRP letters.
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lost skeleton; love that C-96, is it unit marked?, I assume that the wood holster-stock is original? Just love those artillery helmets and accoutrements.
 
Hello Dick:

The C-96 is a Wartime Commercial pistol and not unit marked. The holster/shoulder stock is original but not matched by serial number to the weapon.

Chas.
 
I looked to see if I had a copy of a photo with any Uberzug from JR 99. As luck would have it I do however, it is a later version without numbers and as Brian said no top.
http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/Uberzug.htm

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I have been reading a lot on JR 99 recently, these are the guys from the famous Zabern Affair of 1913.
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Brian,

Try this:
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles30/germany-4.shtml

There is a lot more to add -- English language sources about Alsace-Lorraine are not plentiful. There is however, an entire book about Zabern!
 
James posted this picture in the SOS09 photo thread.
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The cover belongs to Jerry. And it may seem like normal business for many of you, but this thing is issue, has a depot Mark, hooks AND is reversible with a built-in maneuver band. I think this is the first cover I have seen with this combination.
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Some different ones from the Trawnik collection.

More pesky Bavarians. This Bavarian is reversible with an umpire whiteside and a normal, wear greenside. There are two sets of hooks one for each direction. :hello2:

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This example of FAR 46 comes from the Trawnik collection and is a private purchase cover that has hooks. While the maneuver band is built-in and reversible, there are buttonhole type adaptions that you can see that allows the hooks themselves to be reversible.
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You can clearly see the square corners of a Württemberg officer's Uberzug. and a patch that covered up the old JR 123 markings.
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Hi Brian, Happy New Year !!!
your idea of comparing as many covers as possible is great, I started to take pics, you can have a look at them on my website, the introduction is still half in French, half in English, ... in poor English should I say, but I do my best to be understandable :-)

http://www.imperialhelmets.com/helmet-covers/

use picview, it takes some time but the display is much better,

kind regards

Steve
 
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