dave mosher
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Wie gehts:
When I bought the tunic, the boards were missing and the buttons were painted steel so the wearer could have been from either UR12 or UR16. The only thing I had to go from was the placement of the breast awards, the turkish half moon (which is a screw-back and was on the tunic) and the HHOX on the ribbon. Well, based on a leap of faith that the tunic has not been "altered" in the past 87 years (with the exception of the removal of the boards), and that there was only one HHOX awardee in either UR 12 or UR 16, here is what I have found on that awardee, Lt. Hans Heinrich Deetjen.
-Hans Deetjen is born in Allenstein (E. Prussia) on 8/19/94
-Recieved his patent as a leutnant to UR 16 on 10/29/14
-Posted to FEA 1 and 2. FFA (Boyen) late 1914 to eary 1915. These units were combined to become FFA 58 on 4/1/15.
-Qualified as an Beobachter (observer) most likely in early 1915.
-FFA 58 sent to Poland/Russia 5/15/15 as part of 8. Armee, most likely in the Baltic area.
-FFA 58 and FAA 284 are combined on 11/29/16 and was transferred from Russia to France on 12/9/16.
-FFA 58/FAA 284 posted to Armee-Abteilung B. on 12/16/17 near Colmar, France
-FFA 58/FAA 284 posted to AA B Fliegergruppe Sud on 4/1/17.
-Mentioned in the Nachrichtenblatt in 6/15/17
-Recieved the HHOX in Summer 1917 as an observer w/ FAA 284.
-Schutzstaffel (Schusta) 9 is created on 1/1/17 and I assume the Deetjen is posted to this unit.
-Schusta 9 becomes Schlactstaffel (Schlasta) 9 on 3/27/18 and Lt. Hans Deetjen is named leader of the unit
-Lt. Hans Deetjen is killed in action on 3/28/18 at Pont de la Deule, France.
Now, for the lingering questions: How would Deetjen recieve the Gallipoli star? His service appears to have been in Poland, the Baltic area of Russia, and France. Having said that, neither UR 12 or UR 16 served near Turkey. Interestly, as an aside, an Oblt. Henning v. dem Knesebeck with UR 16 was also posted to FAA 284 and served with Deetjen and was killed on 8/22/17.
Also, There are loops for a third award on the next to the EK1 and observers badge. I would suppose it could be a wound badge (the sizing of the loops fit) or possibly a turkish pilot's badge.???? The other badges and the "correct" slip-on aviator boards on the tunic were obviously added, but all fit the loops on the tunic.
Dave
When I bought the tunic, the boards were missing and the buttons were painted steel so the wearer could have been from either UR12 or UR16. The only thing I had to go from was the placement of the breast awards, the turkish half moon (which is a screw-back and was on the tunic) and the HHOX on the ribbon. Well, based on a leap of faith that the tunic has not been "altered" in the past 87 years (with the exception of the removal of the boards), and that there was only one HHOX awardee in either UR 12 or UR 16, here is what I have found on that awardee, Lt. Hans Heinrich Deetjen.
-Hans Deetjen is born in Allenstein (E. Prussia) on 8/19/94
-Recieved his patent as a leutnant to UR 16 on 10/29/14
-Posted to FEA 1 and 2. FFA (Boyen) late 1914 to eary 1915. These units were combined to become FFA 58 on 4/1/15.
-Qualified as an Beobachter (observer) most likely in early 1915.
-FFA 58 sent to Poland/Russia 5/15/15 as part of 8. Armee, most likely in the Baltic area.
-FFA 58 and FAA 284 are combined on 11/29/16 and was transferred from Russia to France on 12/9/16.
-FFA 58/FAA 284 posted to Armee-Abteilung B. on 12/16/17 near Colmar, France
-FFA 58/FAA 284 posted to AA B Fliegergruppe Sud on 4/1/17.
-Mentioned in the Nachrichtenblatt in 6/15/17
-Recieved the HHOX in Summer 1917 as an observer w/ FAA 284.
-Schutzstaffel (Schusta) 9 is created on 1/1/17 and I assume the Deetjen is posted to this unit.
-Schusta 9 becomes Schlactstaffel (Schlasta) 9 on 3/27/18 and Lt. Hans Deetjen is named leader of the unit
-Lt. Hans Deetjen is killed in action on 3/28/18 at Pont de la Deule, France.
Now, for the lingering questions: How would Deetjen recieve the Gallipoli star? His service appears to have been in Poland, the Baltic area of Russia, and France. Having said that, neither UR 12 or UR 16 served near Turkey. Interestly, as an aside, an Oblt. Henning v. dem Knesebeck with UR 16 was also posted to FAA 284 and served with Deetjen and was killed on 8/22/17.
Also, There are loops for a third award on the next to the EK1 and observers badge. I would suppose it could be a wound badge (the sizing of the loops fit) or possibly a turkish pilot's badge.???? The other badges and the "correct" slip-on aviator boards on the tunic were obviously added, but all fit the loops on the tunic.
Dave
