Unique Helmet eagles M1860?

Sandmann

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Hello fellow Pickelhaube collectors,
I just found the photos of this helmet M1867 on www.aiolfi.com, it was auctioned in 2021.
Please have a look to the helmet eagle, which I have never seen in this style before. What I find special is the design of the Fatherland bandeau and the profile of the "FWR" medallion.
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However, the medallion and Banner fascinates me because it’s different layers. I think that the helmet eagle is a very early model of the 1860 series, because the medallion and banner look as if they were added later to an existing mold. If the whole mold had been redesigned, the artist would surely have found more elegant ways of designing it, as was the case with later versions. In addition, it was placed in an even higher level than the banner, which makes the side view very conspicuous, especially in the upper area.
The banner runs much more horizontally on the wings as usual. Care was taken to ensure that the banner ran as little as possible over the upper part of the feathers, that the side profile of the wings doesn't look so thick. I think it makes sense from an aesthetic point of view, because it always looks better when the wings taper off flat. Furthermore, the corners of the banner in the middle section extend quite a bit beyond the contour of the eagle's neck, which I have never seen before in this form.
Although the design is quite unique in my eyes, the helmet eagle is an original in my eyes. The frosty fire gilding and the quality of the molding clearly speak for it.
The fact that the attachment of this helmet M1867 was done by threaded pins is no reason to doubt the authenticity. The special fastening method with the sliders, for which the M1867 is known, was mainly used in Prussia. The most other German states in which the Pickelhaube was worn at that time continued to use the threaded pins and square nuts.

Another special and early helmet eagle M1860 I found on www.weitze.net, a guard eagle. Although the Fatherland Bandeau was already integrated into the mold too, it was also just added onto an older guard eagle. A look to the banner near the sword and sceptre proves this. Instead of the banner folding around these objects, as was the case with later guard eagles (see last pic), the banner simply folds in front of these insignia. For me, this is a clear sign of an object that was added later.
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Do you know other unique helmet eagles or other examples like this ones? Your opinions are welcome :)
 
Incredible! Many thanks for showing. I have never seen this variant before. It’s the Fuerst-eagle of IR 92, 93, 94, 95, 96 I/III, but instead of the star of one of the duchies coat of armes the FWR.

Best wishes,

GardeUlan
 
Hello,
I think I can make a contribution to this your article. I have the same helmet plate-but with "KOENIG"- on my M.60 pickelhaube for FAR.
You are right - these - my and your plate - look more plastic compare to other ones we know. My pickelhaube doesn´t have any issued marks, so I guess it could be privately purchased one. In this case the plate can be a variation of the helmet maker offered to the buyer. The issued plates are " flat" and just a bit another of configuration of the banner. But it is my opinion only.M.60 EM FAR detail.jpg
 
(y)🤩 That's great and I think it helps to explore the reason for the extraordinary design 🤩(y)
If the text on the banner is different, it would make sense that this was a modular press mold that could be changed if needed! Surely the “FWR” medallion could have been skipped too, and I bet the “FR” lettering would have been visible underneath. That would definitely explain the different layers and the plastic construction. Really a great help (y)
 
@Wadosa: Could you please also post a photo of diagonal front, like my 2nd one? I would like to be able to see the thickness a little better.
Thank you very much :)
 
Does anybody have a good quality photo of a Prussian helmet eagle M1860 in an official (Beamten) version (with FR but without Fatherland Bandeau)? Or do you know where I can find such an eagle? I only found Landwehr or reserve eagles without FR.
Thank you in advance for your support.
 
Thank you very much, this is also a great helmet eagle (y)
But I'm rather looking for the M1860 eagle without a banner (just „FR“), as I think it was worn on some official helmets.
 
Thank you very much 🙏:)🙏 Unfortunately, it is another eagle, because it does not have the necessary thickness and the design of the feathers is different when you take a closer look. I was too enthusiastic. But I still think that the modular press mold system was applied for the first eagle. All the characteristics of the ribbon and the medallion speak for it. Maybe we will find an identical helmet eagle with a different text or breast design.
 
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