weird lookin' Busby
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pointystuff
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Frankenhelm. :thumbsdown:
pointystuff
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US $1,447.00 final bid. [-(
Done. :joker:kaiser said:
Done. :joker:kaiser said:
Done. :joker:kaiser said:
glennsche
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i contacted an acquaintance who's been collecting a very long time (40+ years) about this, and he wrote the following:
"Quite honestly, I can't see how this busby would not be original, and if parts were added, they certainly did a good job, and the additions are all of the period. The center of the feldzeichen is in blue (a bit faded, but blue) and none of the parts look like they were made any earlier than more than 100 years ago. The silver embroidery around the blue center most definitely is period. The fangschnurr is an officers' piece, and may be silver, instead of an enlisted colors (I am away right now and not near my research resources, so I don't know, off the top of my head.) The chinscales are correct for cavalry, and obviously of the period. The bandeau is the right one for that regiment, and I don't know of anyone reproducing them. The busby is an officers' headgear, so the interior would not have enlisted "leather fingers", and everything looks period. The only restoration or repair could be the stitching holding in the leather sweat band, but if it were, that would be inconsequential.
Looks like a really good price to me, and I wonder how high it will go."
for me, the part that really turned me off was the Totenkopf looked too small and the liner looked ... not german. But, who knows, maybe if it was a private purchase and consequently baerenfell instead of seal skin...
glad i passed on it, personally, but am not as sure its a bad copy as i was! :-k
"Quite honestly, I can't see how this busby would not be original, and if parts were added, they certainly did a good job, and the additions are all of the period. The center of the feldzeichen is in blue (a bit faded, but blue) and none of the parts look like they were made any earlier than more than 100 years ago. The silver embroidery around the blue center most definitely is period. The fangschnurr is an officers' piece, and may be silver, instead of an enlisted colors (I am away right now and not near my research resources, so I don't know, off the top of my head.) The chinscales are correct for cavalry, and obviously of the period. The bandeau is the right one for that regiment, and I don't know of anyone reproducing them. The busby is an officers' headgear, so the interior would not have enlisted "leather fingers", and everything looks period. The only restoration or repair could be the stitching holding in the leather sweat band, but if it were, that would be inconsequential.
Looks like a really good price to me, and I wonder how high it will go."
for me, the part that really turned me off was the Totenkopf looked too small and the liner looked ... not german. But, who knows, maybe if it was a private purchase and consequently baerenfell instead of seal skin...
glad i passed on it, personally, but am not as sure its a bad copy as i was! :-k
KAGGR#1
Well-known member
As I said earlier it has an enlisted skull
Here is my H R 17 enlisted .
At one time I had 2 H R 17 officers. I kept the one with the parade bush .
It is easy to see the difference in the skulls when you see them together .
H R 17 officers also must have the special chin straps shown here and they are attached
to the body with lion heads .
A close up of the H R 17 officer in my collection.
The H R 17 officer that I still have came from Jan Kube some many years ago. It was part
of a complete officers outfit head to toe .Because of the cost of the total outfit together
Kube was not able to sell it that way . He then sold the pieces one at a time . It was in the
former Jacques Pries collection . I got it form Jacques . The set was to a named officer .
Steve
Here is my H R 17 enlisted .
At one time I had 2 H R 17 officers. I kept the one with the parade bush .
It is easy to see the difference in the skulls when you see them together .
H R 17 officers also must have the special chin straps shown here and they are attached
to the body with lion heads .
A close up of the H R 17 officer in my collection.
The H R 17 officer that I still have came from Jan Kube some many years ago. It was part
of a complete officers outfit head to toe .Because of the cost of the total outfit together
Kube was not able to sell it that way . He then sold the pieces one at a time . It was in the
former Jacques Pries collection . I got it form Jacques . The set was to a named officer .
Steve
