What does this depot marks say?
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zipperheads9
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I can not make out last letter in in the stamp . Is it a Bavarian Dept mark?
MArk
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For me RBA is Reserve Beckleidungs Amt (equipment office for reserve)
with BA number (army corps number or unit number)
Regards
For me RBA is Reserve Beckleidungs Amt (equipment office for reserve)
with BA number (army corps number or unit number)
Regards
joerookery
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KAGGR 1870
that's a reasonable idea. I need to dig more into the Bekleidungsamt organizations. There are several interesting lessons coming out of our list of marks. What I do not know is if the Bekleidungsamt was tied to the tactical corps or the administrative corps area. I am leaning towards the latter however I have yet to prove anything.
that's a reasonable idea. I need to dig more into the Bekleidungsamt organizations. There are several interesting lessons coming out of our list of marks. What I do not know is if the Bekleidungsamt was tied to the tactical corps or the administrative corps area. I am leaning towards the latter however I have yet to prove anything.
KAGGR 1870
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Each armee korps have his own BA (with RBA for reserve and LBA for Landwher during war )
here is his 1914 list with Home district (during war we found KBA: Kriegs BA for war BA and BIA for Beckleidung Instandsetzung Amt for repair BA)
BA I :I Armeekorps Köenigsberg
BA II; II AK Stettin
BA III: III AK Berlin
BA IV IV AK Magdeburg
BA V: V AK Posen
BA VI: VI AK Breslau
BA VII / VII AK Münster
BA VIII : VIII AK Coblenz
BA IX: IX AK Altona
BA X : X AK Hannover (with Hannoversches, Brunswick and Oldenburg Regiment )
BA XI : XI AK Cassel
BA XII: First Sächsisches Armeekorps Dresden
BA XIII: Württembergisches AK Stuttgart
BA XIV: XIV AK Badisches
BA XV: XV AK Strassburg (Elsäss)
BA XVI : XVI AK Metz (Lothringen)
BA XVII: XVII AK Danzig
BA XIX: Second Sächsisches AK Leipzig
Armee korps without their own BA but with RBA (reserve)
XVIII AK Frankfurt a Main (with Hessisches regiments) depending of BA VII (IR 87 and 88)and BAVIII (for other)
XX AK Allenstein depending of BAI (IR 146, 147, 150 and 151) and
BA XVII (IR 18, 50, 148 and 152)
XXI AK Saarbrücken depending BA VIII (IR 70 and 174) and BA XV (for other)
Bavarians have their own BA ( three Armeekorps in München, Würburg and Nürnberg)
some are particulars like
BAG garde BA
BAO Ostasien (for China expeditionary armee korps)
KA for Kolonial Amt
To complete here is one interesting link
http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/DepotMarks.htm
Regards
Each armee korps have his own BA (with RBA for reserve and LBA for Landwher during war )
here is his 1914 list with Home district (during war we found KBA: Kriegs BA for war BA and BIA for Beckleidung Instandsetzung Amt for repair BA)
BA I :I Armeekorps Köenigsberg
BA II; II AK Stettin
BA III: III AK Berlin
BA IV IV AK Magdeburg
BA V: V AK Posen
BA VI: VI AK Breslau
BA VII / VII AK Münster
BA VIII : VIII AK Coblenz
BA IX: IX AK Altona
BA X : X AK Hannover (with Hannoversches, Brunswick and Oldenburg Regiment )
BA XI : XI AK Cassel
BA XII: First Sächsisches Armeekorps Dresden
BA XIII: Württembergisches AK Stuttgart
BA XIV: XIV AK Badisches
BA XV: XV AK Strassburg (Elsäss)
BA XVI : XVI AK Metz (Lothringen)
BA XVII: XVII AK Danzig
BA XIX: Second Sächsisches AK Leipzig
Armee korps without their own BA but with RBA (reserve)
XVIII AK Frankfurt a Main (with Hessisches regiments) depending of BA VII (IR 87 and 88)and BAVIII (for other)
XX AK Allenstein depending of BAI (IR 146, 147, 150 and 151) and
BA XVII (IR 18, 50, 148 and 152)
XXI AK Saarbrücken depending BA VIII (IR 70 and 174) and BA XV (for other)
Bavarians have their own BA ( three Armeekorps in München, Würburg and Nürnberg)
some are particulars like
BAG garde BA
BAO Ostasien (for China expeditionary armee korps)
KA for Kolonial Amt
To complete here is one interesting link
http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/DepotMarks.htm
Regards
joerookery
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Bernard,
That is a super list! The active corps Bekleidungsamt are detailed in Führer durch Heer und Flotte including all of the exceptions in his convoluted nodes. However, I do not recall anything about reserve Bekleidungsamt. What source did you use? I'm chasing down so many things about these organizations that more sources would be very helpful. Thanks
That is a super list! The active corps Bekleidungsamt are detailed in Führer durch Heer und Flotte including all of the exceptions in his convoluted nodes. However, I do not recall anything about reserve Bekleidungsamt. What source did you use? I'm chasing down so many things about these organizations that more sources would be very helpful. Thanks
KAGGR 1870
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One source
"Casques à pointe et coiffures prestigieuses de l'armée allemande 1842-1918" by J.L. Larcade - 1983 Grancher
TI Troupes à pied
TII Troupes à cheval
Regards
One source
"Casques à pointe et coiffures prestigieuses de l'armée allemande 1842-1918" by J.L. Larcade - 1983 Grancher
TI Troupes à pied
TII Troupes à cheval
Regards
joerookery
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Bernard,
I think you are right on -- too bad I can't read last part of the mark. From what I was able to understand, there were only three reserve Bekleidungsamt -- these existed in the corps areas where there was no Bekleidungsamt originally. With the exception of the Lacarde book I have found no reference to Landwehr Bekleidungsamt at all. One of the most frustrating things about Lacarde is the way he did not footnote.
I am sure I will find something about Landwehr Bekleidungsamt -- I just don't have it yet. Thanks for all your help!
I think you are right on -- too bad I can't read last part of the mark. From what I was able to understand, there were only three reserve Bekleidungsamt -- these existed in the corps areas where there was no Bekleidungsamt originally. With the exception of the Lacarde book I have found no reference to Landwehr Bekleidungsamt at all. One of the most frustrating things about Lacarde is the way he did not footnote.
I am sure I will find something about Landwehr Bekleidungsamt -- I just don't have it yet. Thanks for all your help!