In May 2008 Gus posted a question regarding the correct colour combination for Troddeln.
Erik responded:
What some might not realize, is that the "Wir Rauchen Gerne Brasil" is a seniority scheme, and it applied to Regiments.
Below are the four Garde-Regt. zu Fuß Regiments: 1. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (white), 2. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (red), 3. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (yellow), and 4. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (blue).
This pattern continued for the four Garde Grenadier Regiments below: Kaiser Alexander Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.1 (white), Kaiser Franz Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.2 (red), Königin Elisabeth Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.3 (yellow), and Königin Augusta Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.4.blue).
After the Garde Regiments, the shoulder straps (with some exceptions)follow the primary Armee-Korps piping colours. It is no accident that the primary Armee-Korps piping colours are in the four colours:
White: I, II, IX, X, XII, & I Bavarian
Red: III, IV XI, XIII XV, XIX, & II Bavarian
Yellow: V, VI, XVI, XVIII, & III Bavarian
Blue: VII, VIII, XVIII, XX
I am not sure of the logic that placed the Korps, but based upon the seniority scheme, I 'assume' that in regards to seniority, the Korps in seniority went I, III, V, VII, then started again with the next numbers from top to bottom, with II, IV, VI, and VIII. The Bavarians are a little easier to spot, with I, II and III being white, red, yellow.
However, a complete left-winger, was the last Armee-Korps, XXI who went with green.
Erik responded:
Erik de Bruin said:Also note the listing of colors: it's alway white for 1, red for 2, yellow for 3 and blue for 4. In German they use the memory aid "Wir Rauchen Gerne Brasil" (We like to smoke Brasil tobacco) The stalk of the troddel represents the bataillon, the crown and loop are representing the company.
What some might not realize, is that the "Wir Rauchen Gerne Brasil" is a seniority scheme, and it applied to Regiments.
Below are the four Garde-Regt. zu Fuß Regiments: 1. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (white), 2. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (red), 3. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (yellow), and 4. Garde-Regt. zu Fuß (blue).
This pattern continued for the four Garde Grenadier Regiments below: Kaiser Alexander Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.1 (white), Kaiser Franz Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.2 (red), Königin Elisabeth Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.3 (yellow), and Königin Augusta Garde-Grenadier-Regt. Nr.4.blue).
After the Garde Regiments, the shoulder straps (with some exceptions)follow the primary Armee-Korps piping colours. It is no accident that the primary Armee-Korps piping colours are in the four colours:
White: I, II, IX, X, XII, & I Bavarian
Red: III, IV XI, XIII XV, XIX, & II Bavarian
Yellow: V, VI, XVI, XVIII, & III Bavarian
Blue: VII, VIII, XVIII, XX
I am not sure of the logic that placed the Korps, but based upon the seniority scheme, I 'assume' that in regards to seniority, the Korps in seniority went I, III, V, VII, then started again with the next numbers from top to bottom, with II, IV, VI, and VIII. The Bavarians are a little easier to spot, with I, II and III being white, red, yellow.
However, a complete left-winger, was the last Armee-Korps, XXI who went with green.
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