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Unfortunately that is a replica. The easiest giveaway is the side piece fish scales, they are dots instead of proper fish scales. Also the front plate has flat balls; the real plates are rounded. Here's mine, vintage old stock from the UK (they also made the red bag version, both with side posts either on or in front of the cannonball) , next to a photo of a real one from Germaniainternational.com.
 

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These are mine; hopefully, there is a clear difference.
 

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Ah, my bad. I just re-read your "Three Miters" thread:

"More images of 3rd Bat. (Fusilier Battalion) mitre and name tag of middle mitre (has super condition plate) to Leib Company."




You have the photo of the liner with the name tag for the Middle Mirte shown at the end of the photos with your 3rd Bat. (Fusilier Battalion) mitre, the yellow one, in the same posting #4 of your "Three Mitres" thread.

The one with the name tag is a red mitre. You have two red mitres/miters in your collection. My bad. I didn't even pay attention to the red interior of the mitre/miter, I was so focused on the liner with the name tag. Time for new glasses.
 
I Just compared it to MAPs one on Warelics and the one on Regimentals, and they appear to be of better quality in the metal work. As an observation. Rob
 
nzef1940 said:
Alan

Are

Hi Alan

Are you also saying the one in this sales thread is bad?

Thanks
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No, I have said nothing of the sort as to whether your miter is bad or good. I unfortunately made a terrible mistake by posting in #5 above, saying: "Is this the same liner you showed in your other thread "Three Mitres"? My sincere apology for making the mistake of posting this in #5 above.

For some unknown reason last night, I became confused toggling back and forth between the two threads, and hyper-focused looking at that earlier thread posting of the yellow miter. I did not initially even realize last night that the lone photo you show of a leather liner inside of the miter in that other thread is for a red miter in that earlier thread posting #4 which otherwise focuses on the exterior views of your yellow miter. I mistakenly thought the liner photo you show in that #4 post on your other thread post was for the yellow miter. I foolishly did not even look at the interior of that miter, other than to hyper focus on the leather liner and the name tag in it. It took me a while of toggling back and forth last night, for me to realize that the liners are two different liners in two different miters in these two threads, after I made the mistake of posting here in #6 above: "Is this the same liner you showed in your other thread "Three Mitres"? I finally realized that the liner photo in this thread and in your other thread are from two different miters. (Is that a foolish tongue twister of too many two's?)

Also, I Quite Obviously did not read your sentence carefully in that earlier thread link. Here is what you said in that #4 post of the earlier thread posting link: "More images of 3rd Bat. (Fusilier Battalion) mitre and name tag of middle mitre (has super condition plate) to Leib Company."

I personally do not collect miters, and I do not collect busbies either. I do not know whether or not your yellow miter is original or not. I simply missed earlier with my looking back and forth between these 2-threads that I was looking at 2-different liners in 2-different miters that you have in your collection. I was so hyper focused that I did not even look further up in the interior of that miter photograph of yours that the miter was red. I simply was so hyper focused on looking at the leather liner and the name tag on the liner. It was my mistake in viewing your two threads, and the photos of what I now realize are 2-different miters with two different leather liners.

My mistake and apology for posting what I did in #5 above, causing you to think that I was "also saying the one in the sales thread is bad". I did not say it was bad. I simply made a bad comment post in #5 above because of my confusion and not realizing one liner is from a red miter in your other thread.
 
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Hello. I don't want to cause any trouble, but if you were told it's a reproduction from Age of Kings, perhaps you could message them for clarification? That way, any misunderstandings can be cleared up. Regards from Belgium.
Sorry, but that’s just my opinion—or am I misreading this?
 
Hello Mike
This is Randy Trawnik from Age of Kings. I have collected since 1964 but still am learning about the finest points of the hobby. The helmet is question came from Father Murphy, an old friend in California. He obtained it from the famous Norn Hobson collection following Norms untimely demise. If is is a repro....it is an early one. We always stand behind our items. I will be happy to trade you one from me personal collection. I promise you mine is genuine with great balls. Please PM me and I will send you the photo of my helmet.
 
randy trawnik said:
Hello Mike
This is Randy Trawnik from Age of Kings. I have collected since 1964 but still am learning about the finest points of the hobby. The helmet is question came from Father Murphy, an old friend in California. He obtained it from the famous Norn Hobson collection following Norms untimely demise. If is is a repro....it is an early one. We always stand behind our items. I will be happy to trade you one from me personal collection. I promise you mine is genuine with great balls. Please PM me and I will send you the photo of my helmet.
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Many thanks Randy

Message sent.

Regards

Mike
 
randy trawnik said:
Hello Mike
This is Randy Trawnik from Age of Kings. I have collected since 1964 but still am learning about the finest points of the hobby. The helmet is question came from Father Murphy, an old friend in California. He obtained it from the famous Norn Hobson collection following Norms untimely demise. If is is a repro....it is an early one. We always stand behind our items. I will be happy to trade you one from me personal collection. I promise you mine is genuine with great balls. Please PM me and I will send you the photo of my helmet.
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All I can say is pure class as a consumer and collector you really can't ask for more than that. (y)(y)

MFG John Josef
 
For future reference, this is a relatively common old replica that has been made for decades. The one I have was made along with all the other UK vintage replicas of tschapkas, felts, busbies, etc from the 1970/80s I believe but they all look very bad compared to the mitres . By this point they are old enough to pass as antique especially if also purposely aged. The one I have looks unusually clean compared to most that pop up, even though the liner is old and stiff and there was corrosion on the plate so I blued it instead to give it a grey patina. After all this, I'm going to make the bag look faded now lol. Spikehelmets Poland still makes plated officer versions using what appears to be the exact same pattern with the same flaws. If you actually just compare the replica and real mitres side by side there are many differences in detail and metal. The letters are also blatantly wrong, I just always say to watch the scales and balls. Most have the chin scales removed because they are very obviously not correct. I will add these details to the fakes topic thread.
Glad to see he got some real round balls now, does that mean it will be for sale here soon?
 
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