Ww1 German all steel lance Lieb Hussar Regt

[Shinyblades]

Hello fellow collectors
Although a sword / bayonet/ gun collector I was
Recently offered this lance in a trade along with a flintlock brown Bess musket , as I have a few ww1 helmets and bayonets it intrigued me so I acquired it , any comments appreciated

 

[John Josef]

I think you may have something there, looks like someone made the strap out of a gun sling, that is really well done.

Are there any other markings on the lance?

 

[Bobted]

Can you add a photo of the brown Bess thanks bob

 

[Khukri]

Very nice!!!

 

[Shinyblades]

Can you add a photo of the brown Bess thanks bob

Hi bob
I have a few photos yes the butt is stamped 1806 , so a pre 1809 when after they used the ring neck cock .

 

[Shinyblades]

A few more bob

 

[Khukri]

Total length of the lance: 3 metres 20?

 

[Shinyblades]

Hello khukri
Lance is 10 feet - 6 1/2”
Or 3metres - 215 mm

 

[Khukri]

Thank you,
-what is the total weight?
The little book is not mentioning the "two-part lance".
The booklet (page 33) shows a table with all twelve Modelle/patterns: all in one piece: Stahlrohr/tube.
-Interesting-
-In order to prevent the lance humming: from 1893 on: a rolled piece of blotting paper (35 gram) was inserted in the bottom end.
-On the rolled up lance pennants: there is no written proof that this was done to create a "stopper"; thus preventing the lance to penetrate too deep into the target; often forcing the rider to let go of his lance.

 

[Bobted]

Fabulous lucky you! I do love a Brown Bess . Rob

 

[cptbob]

Shouldn't the lance pennant for 1LH be black with a white skull? (black skull on white being for 2LH)?

 

[Khukri]

Shouldn't the lance pennant for 1LH be black with a white skull? (black skull on white being for 2LH)?

You are right!

 

[KAGGR#1]

Shouldn't the lance pennant for 1LH be black with a white skull? (black skull on white being for 2LH)?

I agree with you . The stampings are for 1 L H R 1
the lance flag is the color combo for 2 L H R 2
I know nothing about the lance
but I do not have a good feeling about the flag
I don't like it
It is also stamped for 1 L H R 1 which is not correct
I hope that Tony S. will comment on this
I know that he has a correct lance flag
Steve

 

[2nd.Leibhusar]

LH1 is black with white scull
LH 2 the other way around

 

[michiel]

The lance looks quite convincing, but,
I agree with steve on the pennant, and for the lance itself:

I looked it up in two reference works:
die feldgraue Uniformierung (Kraus) and the german cavalry (verlag militaria, in both there is no mention of a two parts lance,
If I was the owner of that lance I really would like a reference to the existence of such an item.

so seems to good to be true...

 

[John Josef]

Since I've had no reply to the request of additional markings on the lance, I'm assuming there are none.

As mentioned, it should be one piece

I wouldn't touch it or the Pennant after a closer look at the sewn holes for attachment.

Coolest thing is how someone made the wrist strap, that is well done.

 

[Khukri]

The correct weight is important.

 

[Khukri]

?Lieb?

 

[Shinyblades]

Since I've had no reply to the request of additional markings on the lance, I'm assuming there are none.

As mentioned, it should be one piece

I wouldn't touch it or the Pennant after a closer look at the sewn holes for attachment.

Coolest thing is how someone made the wrist strap, that is well done.

Hi John joseph , been away fishing , I will have a look and check a weight thanks

 

[Shinyblades]

The correct weight is important.

Hi thanks I will find a scale and check a weight