Help in Uberrock Frock Coat ID

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Help in Uberrock Frock Coat ID

Post by SkipperJohn » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:20 pm

Can anyone help me identify this frock coat? At first I thought it might be a Bavarian Chevauleger Uberrock but there are just too many questions:

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The coat is hunter green, similar to what a Jaeger would wear, and it sports a medal bar with an EK2 and a Hindenberg Cross (probably added to promote sale):

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The shoulder boards definitely appear to be Bavarian, but the Chevaulegers did not use numbers on their shoulder boards:

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The cuffs are Polish in design ??? and they are piped in red. There does not appear to have ever been a button mounted on the sleeve cuffs:

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The reverse of the coat looks normal:

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The liner also looks good:

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There is a "266" stamped on the inside of a sleeve. I cannot find any other marks. There are a couple tag ends where a tag may have been ripped off:

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All of the buttons are silver except for one brass shoulder board button. Obviously a replacement.

Does anybody have any ideas???

Thanks,
John :-?

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Re: Help in Uberrock Frock Coat ID

Post by Tony without Kaiser » Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:16 am

Well, shoulder straps appear to be Waffenrock straps for Jäger Bn. Nr. 4, or Pionier Bn Nr. 4. Neither of which belong on an Überrock, men were not authorized to wear it. There is an occasional photo out there of an officer candidate wearing an Überrock, but I don't think this is the case. The straps are blue backed and if original,the underlay would match the coat colour. Plus generally, no Army unit work Polish cuffs on the Überrock that I am aware of. So take the straps of and what do you have? I see a government coat of some sort. Customs, police, rat-inspector, who knows?
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Re: Help in Uberrock Frock Coat ID

Post by SkipperJohn » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:57 pm

Thank you Tony. This coat belongs to a friend of mine who recently purchased it at a show in Arizona. He asked if I could help him identify it so I looked through all the books, your website, internet sources, the forum, etc, and could not come up with anything that even closely matched. I knew I would get an answer on the forum. I don't know what he paid. Maybe he can recoup some of the money in the medals.

John :(

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