Prussian Line Cuirassier EM Model 1809

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Re: Prussian Line Cuirassier EM Model 1809

Post by SkipperJohn » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:25 pm

My leather comb is the same; 2cm just above the neck guard, 5cm at the beginning of the turn, but just a little over 7cm at the front. The support is a little over 10cm at the front. It must be an optical illusion because (other than the very front) the comb measures exactly the same as yours. It could be that my helmet is a larger size. If mine fits a larger head the comb would look smaller. Also the comb on mine is bunched up at the front because the stitching is tight. I noticed on your helmet the sides of the leather Raupe are almost completely flat. This is characteristic of newer models like the 1820 pictured above. It could be that the stitching on yours has just stretched.

It seems different models, over different years, had flared supports. There are a couple of photos on Pinterest and Alamy that I cannot copy, but they show a flare. Most are covered because of the longer hair in the front. The photo in Osprey also seems to have a flair. If there was, in fact, a detachable front plume it would make sense to incorporate a flair in the support, otherwise the front hair would just hang down straight in a hair cylinder looking somewhat like a curved broomstick.

I had noticed that the link you posted in this thread is to a reenactment group. I found it amazing that they are trying to reproduce these helmets. I'll bet that will cost a fortune now-a-days. Maybe they will just use modern materials.

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Re: Prussian Line Cuirassier EM Model 1809

Post by SkipperJohn » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:10 am

Photos reinstalled in original post using picorator.com

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Re: Prussian Line Cuirassier EM Model 1809

Post by Mappa » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:14 pm

Fantastic helmet =D>
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Re: Prussian Line Cuirassier EM Model 1809

Post by poniatowski » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:03 pm

I didn't see this before. Wonderful helmet and fun discussion. :)

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I really do need to know more about this....

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