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My Xmas present

Post by newbe » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:40 am

I don't mind admitting that this cost a lot of "folding stuff".

Money well spent.

My wife actually agrees as well. :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

Friedrich "Fritz" von Friedeburg
(5.3.1866 - 27.4.1933)

The general was born in Freiburg and died in Berlin.

He entered the 1. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß on the 21 Sep 1883 as a Fahnenjunker. promotions as follows:

15 Apr 1884: Portepee-Fähnrich
14 Feb 1885: Sekonde-Lieutenant
03 Jun 1893: Premier-Lieutenant
18 Nov 1897: Hauptmann (without Patent)
27 Jan 1898: Hauptmann
24 Dec 1902: Major
18 May 1908: Oberstleutnant


Among his appointments: Adjutant of the Lehr-Infanterie-Bataillon, Regimental Adjutant of the 1. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß, various general staff appointments, ADC (Flügel-Adjutant) to the Kaiser and General à la suite to the Kaiser. He commanded the 1. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß from 20 March 1911 until 1 Aug 1914 ultimately as a Generalmajor.

He commanded the 6. Garde-Infanterie-Brigade until 1 Aug 1915 when he assumed command of the 1. Garde-Infanterie-Brigade. He temporarily also commanded the 3. Garde-Infanterie-Division during this period from 17 May to 02 Jul 1915. On 12 May 1916 he became commander of the 2. Garde-Infanterie-Division and then AJ takes up the story. I have a final retirement date for him as 09 Apr 1920

German lieutenant general serving as General a la suite to Kaiser Wilhelm II and in command of the prestigous 1st Guard Foot Regiment during the time leading up the War's outbreak.

Friedeburg commanded at the brigade level during the first half of the Great War, finishing the last half heading up 2nd Guards Division.

Following the Armistice, von Friedeburg was simultaneously in command of VI. Army Corps and the 6th Reichswehr Brigade for about three months.

Gen. Lt. Friedrich von Friedeburg awarded the on - Pour le Merit on 20 Sept. 1918

He retired from military service on 9 April 1920, passing away in Berlin in 1933.'







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This photo of him was taken in Munich in 1919.On the horse is Faupel

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Re: My Xmas present

Post by garder » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:02 am

Wow, amazing :D

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Re: My Christmas present

Post by RON » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:18 am

Merry Christmas!! :bravo: =D>
Cheers!
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Re: My Xmas present

Post by badener » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:31 am

Outstanding! =P~
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Re: My Xmas present

Post by weirdpyramid » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:51 am

Amazing!!! :o you can't beat that! great story and history with the helmet! =D> =D> =D>

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Re: My Xmas present

Post by J.LeBrasseur » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:22 am

WOW, good for you!

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Post by joerookery » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:49 am

I don't know if it gets any better than that–Janet even said that is a cool one. Congratulations! :bravo: :bravo:
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Re: My Xmas present

Post by 911car » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:13 am

So it was you!!!

Anyway, well done! Warm congratulations. An outstanding helmet.

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Post by poniatowski » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:42 am

That's just SUPER! It doesn't get much better than that.

:D Ron
I really do need to know more about this....

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Re: My Xmas present

Post by Arran » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:24 pm

A gorgeous helmet with history! I waited 20 years to get mine- where was this one offered?
Looking for German-made pickelhauben for foreign markets!

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Post by newbe » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:43 pm

Originally in the Wallis and Wallis Sale 539 October 2011 (walliandwallis.org)

Not a major source of Pickelhaubes but occasionally a few pop up.
On this instance a dealer AKA"Regimentals" as well as myself were bidding.
I lost as I was an absentee bidder.
I subsequently bought it off "Regimentals" after the sale.

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Re: My Xmas present

Post by Adler » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:14 am

Helmets and history... yesssssss!

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Re: My Xmas present

Post by newbe » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:10 am

I have a second version;

1. Without the Semper Talis scroll
2. With curved chin scales.
3. Poorer quality casting.
4. Same fluted spike.
5. Different eagle style black and green oak leaves versus gold oak leaves .
6. Slight differences on the scrolls (straight versus curved).

I don't know if this is a copy or a poorer quality 2nd Guard Regiment of Foot issue.

Can anyone help please?

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Post by Westfront » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:08 am

Beautiful Helmet i love those Semper Talis helmets these are so rare my father had one 25 years ago with the original parade plume.

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Post by Arran » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:19 pm

I would say that this is an original helmet, but would want to see the back of the plate etc. to be sure. The scales are in that "in between" category where they could almost be considered flat or domed depending on the rosettes...
newbe wrote:I have a second version;

1. Without the Semper Talis scroll
2. With curved chin scales.
3. Poorer quality casting.
4. Same fluted spike.
5. Different eagle style black and green oak leaves versus gold oak leaves .
6. Slight differences on the scrolls (straight versus curved).

I don't know if this is a copy or a poorer quality 2nd Guard Regiment of Foot issue.

Can anyone help please?

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Post by argonne » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:53 pm

Hey "newbe", I think you´ll always remember this Xmas 2011!!! :D
Congrats on that piece of history belonging to the sort of helmets with proveniance that makes our collectors hearts beating faster and faster!!! =D> I understand your pride and your delight to own this Haube! Absolutely well done!! A cool investment!!! Present from your wife :?:
Do you already have a wish for next Xmas?.... :D :D :D One of Kaiser Wilhelms Pickelhaube maybe? :-"
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Post by edwin » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:12 pm

Very nice and impressive history, congratulations!

Regards,

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Post by argonne » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:17 am

One question: should the officer stars not be silver on the "von Friedeburg´s" helmet?
They seem to be gilt on all the picts...
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Re: My Xmas present

Post by newbe » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:48 am

Hi,

If you look on the first three photos, you will see the stars and the semper talis bandeau
all have the same odd finish and wear.

The outer portions are silver but the rasised areas appears more of a brass finish.

All the raised parts of the front plate and stars have this funny silver to yellow finish.

May be due to polishing?

I dont know.

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Re: My Xmas present

Post by Larmo » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:58 am

Bravo, lovely helmet, an outstanding researchable artifact, what more could you ask for.... :thumb up:

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Post by argonne » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:33 pm

Yes, I can also see now the same kind of patina with some brass reflexion on the spike section too, just above the "dards and eggs".
You´re right, that´s a nice normal stronger patina at only certain points, as sometimes seen on german silver fittings.
Once again: CONGRATS!!!! =D>
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Post by istanbulian » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:22 am

That is one class haube; Wallis and Wallis do indeed have some nice items.

Congratulations.

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Post by b.loree » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:32 pm

Fantastic helmets! Congratulations.
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Re: von Friedeburg

Post by newbe » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:23 pm

Just a general question.

Does anyone on this forum know if Generalleutnant Friedrich "Fritz" von Friedeburg (1866 - 1933) is in any way related to General Admiral Hans-Georg von Friedeburg (1895 - 1945) ?


General Admiral Hans-Georg von Friedeburg (1895 - 1945) and General Eberhard Kinzel visit the British camp on Luneburg Heath to sign the Instrument of Surrender of the German armed forces in Holland, north-west Germany and Denmark at the end of World WarWurttemberg

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An example of suicide through shame of surrender was that of Admiral von Friedeburg. He had been present at both the surrender of the German forces in the north of Germany at Lüneburg Heath and also at Reims. Placed under arrest at Flensburg with the other members of the Dönitz government, von Friedeburg chose to kill himself with a cyanide ampule in a toilet. His body was carried into his quarters and placed on a cot where it was photographed.

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An interesting addition to this story is that his Knights Cross of the War Merit Cross with Swords that he was wearing around his neck (visible in one photo) at the time was removed and disappeared. An investigation was carried out by the British authorities, but the award was not returned. The British issued an official apology to Dönitz for this theft.

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Post by argonne » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:50 am

I only found that:
Admiral Hans-Georg von Friedeburg is burried in Adelby (Flensburg), only 15 miles of my home (!).
He was the son of General-Major a.D. (außer Dienst) Karl von Friedeburg (1862-1924). This General-Major was 1914-18 the commander of the 2. badisches Feldartillerie-Regiment 30.
The von Friedeburg family is coming from the Baden state.
The Admiral had two sons:
- Ludwig-Ferdinand (1924-2010), which was the youngest U-Boot Kommandant of the Kriegsmarine, and then after the war Soziologe and Minister in Hessen.
- Friedrich (1926-1991) , was a german reporter and was involved in the Maschinenbau-Konzern Demag AG

That´s all....Maybe were "your" Friedrich "Fritz" and Karl (father of the Admiral) brothers, one born 1866 and the other 1862...Only one hypothesis...
There also were two other von Friedeburg in the prussian army: one Leutnant in the 1st Garde Regiment zu Fuß and one Oberst, commander of the JR138. I could not find out the christian names...
However I think all belonging to the same family.
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Re: My Xmas present

Post by newbe » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:44 pm

Argonne,

Thanks for your comments.

Most helpful.

Regards

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