Garde-Pioneer or Garde-Fusilier Pickelhaube

ccj said:
I’m not the man with talent to clean it. Would have to get someone to
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Some would leave it "as is "
I think a very light cleaning would make it display better
a collector friend in the past put a very light amount of
Pledge on a cloth and when over the leather body
it removed grime
I know of no harm to body years later
I bet that most of the original silver wash is still on the front plate
Brian L. would be the one to get cleaning details from
Steve
 
I studied it off and on for a while. I finally pulled the trigger. Im a senior citizen now and always wanted a garde helmet, a grenadier helmet and a nice pioneer helmet.
I finally picked up got one…

I have very strange buying habits and typically will spend money on a tunic much easier than a helmet.

But lately, I realized I have too many tunics and visors so I’m trying to focus on the spiked helmets I want.
 
It´a GPB helmet, because of the gilt stars. Could even have been worn in one the of the ER, in the Kraftfahrbataillon or in the Versuchsabteilung des Verkehrwesen.

Philippe
 
argonne said:
It´a GPB helmet, because of the gilt stars. Could even have been worn in one the of the ER, in the Kraftfahrbataillon or in the Versuchsabteilung des Verkehrwesen.

Philippe
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Thanks Philippe, I need to study the differences. I’m pleased with it being pioneer.
 
Congratulations Charles, on a superb looking guard helmet!

The metal fittings on yours look similar to what the condition of the fittings on my helmet looked like when I acquired it back in 2008.

I chose to clean mine, and the silver frosting on the guard eagle really jumps out and looks super sharp once I cleaned the fittings.

Here's what mine looks like after I cleaned it. I left the neusilber guard star uncleaned, because I didn't want to get any of the cleaning product on the enamel in the star. I cleaned the spike, base, stars, back spine, front visor trim piece, chinscales, and rosettes, and the guard eagle, but not the guard star.

Best Wishes,

Alan


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Charles, Alan… may I ask you to measure the width or height of the guard stars for my pickelhauben measurement comparison table? I'm always looking for measurements of guard stars of helmets from 1842 to 1895, regardless of whether they are enlisted or officer's helmets.
Thank you in advance for sour support.
 
What was used to clean the silver fittings? Mine seems like it may be made of wartime materials. I’m not sure how to proceed.
 
ccj said:
What was used to clean the silver fittings? Mine seems like it may be made of wartime materials. I’m not sure how to proceed.
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Hi Charles,

I actually used a product called "Parsons Sudsy Ammonia". Unfortunately their "sudsy ammonia" product is no longer sold, although their other household ammonia cleaning products are still on the market. I've used it many times before to gently clean silver or gold plated items in the past with good success. I used an old toothbrush to gently scrub on the wappen, and rinsed the spike, base, stars, and wappen off afterwards with water. I dried everything carefully and also used a hairdryer to make certain everything was 100% dried.

I've been told that a person can use household liquid dish washing soap mixed with household cleaning ammonia to create a "sudsy ammonia" home made product. It's supposed to create the same effects as the old Parson's sudsy ammonia product. I haven't tried making any yet, as I've been fortunate to still have a small amount of the original product left in an old plastic container I purchased many yrs ago.

On the front visor trim and the back spike, and the chin scales, I simply used a slightly damp terry cloth washcloth with the sudsy ammonia, and wiped the metal parts and it cleaned them.

Best Wishes,

Alan
 
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