Opinion about Preußen (Hannoverian) Dragoner Regt 9 Pickelhaube

[FRONTENAC]

Dear collectors,

I would like to have your opinion about this Model 1867/1894 Enlisted man helmet from the Preußen (Hannoverian) Dragoner Regt 9.

Thanks in advance for your comments

Regards,

Richard

 

[J.LeBrasseur]

Looks good IMO, liner is showing lots of wear, but that does not bother me. I like it. Proper back spine.

James

 

[michiel]

I like it a lot, but as it is cavalry I would expect bombed in staid of flat chinsclales...

 

[michiel]

looking again maybe they are not flat?

 

[FRONTENAC]

Looks good IMO, liner is showing lots of wear, but that does not bother me. I like it. Proper back spine.

James

Thank you for your comment James.

Yes. The lining shows signs of age but, like you, that doesn't bother me as the rest is very nice and above all it's a helmet with a bandeau from a prestigious regiment.

 

[FRONTENAC]

looking again maybe they are not flat?

Thanks for your comment Michiel.

The helmet has a Model 1894 brass rounded chinscales over Model 1891 side posts.

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hello Richard,
nice helmet, nothing to say, everything is 0K. The front eagle banners are still attached and welded, so this is a Dragon eagle model 1867, found on the helmets, to which the 3 banners were added in 1899. Subsequently, the eagle and headbands were stamped in one piece (for the troop).

 

[CLOVIS 57]

The curved scales on the chinstrap were very curved as long as the rider was armed with a sabre or spear. When he had to shoulder a carbine, the scales were less curved, so as not to get in the way.

 

[FRONTENAC]

Hello Richard,
nice helmet, nothing to say, everything is 0K. The front eagle banners are still attached and welded, so this is a Dragon eagle model 1867, found on the helmets, to which the 3 banners were added in 1899. Subsequently, the eagle and headbands were stamped in one piece (for the troop).

Hello Clovis,

Thanks for your opinion about my helmet and for sharing your knowledge regarding the subject.

 

[FRONTENAC]

The curved scales on the chinstrap were very curved as long as the rider was armed with a sabre or spear. When he had to shoulder a carbine, the scales were less curved, so as not to get in the way.

Very good information!

 

[Amybellars]

Rare regiment, good find

 

[FRONTENAC]

Rare regiment, good find

Thanks Amy!

 

[b.loree]

Richard: I received your PM about this helmet but any response was blocked. B

 

[FRONTENAC]

Richard: I received your PM about this helmet but any response was blocked. B

Hi Brian,

I will send you a PM again.

Richard

 

[argonne]

Another beautiful helmet from AOK.
I am also thinking all is OK on it, even if I would have prefered it, considering the price, with a clear DR9 stamp.
Philippe

 

[FRONTENAC]

Another beautiful helmet from AOK.
I am also thinking all is OK on it, even if I would have prefered it, considering the price, with a clear DR9 stamp.
Philippe

Thank you Philippe.

Maybe I'll clean the helmet a little and restore the shine to the plate for example.

 

[argonne]

Richard, I would let it as it.
There are two opposite opinions about how those old things have to look like.
Some collectors want to have them as they were, shiny and clean. Other collectors do not want to change anything from the old patina, because this is a part of the helmets story too...And this mostly is the proof that the helmet is still untouched and that nothing on ist has been moved on or off, or manipulated at some time.
Philippe

 

[FRONTENAC]

Richard, I would let it as it.
There are two opposite opinions about how those old things have to look like.
Some collectors want to have them as they were, shiny and clean. Other collectors do not want to change anything from the old patina, because this is a part of the helmets story too...And this mostly is the proof that the helmet is still untouched and that nothing on ist has been moved on or off, or manipulated at some time.
Philippe

Philippe,

I know there are two schools of thought about this subject. I have always kept my helmets in their original condition, just removing the dust; apart from one exception for a French Dragoon helmet where I had to treat the leather of a chinstrap which risked splitting because it was too dry.

You are going to tell me why changing my approach for this helmet. Maybe because it has a nice bandeau.
I will think about all this even if I tend to continue to opt for your approach of things.

 

[John Josef]

I love it just the way it is, it's a true survivor from a famous regiment and in excellent condition

 

[FRONTENAC]

I love it just the way it is, it's a true survivor from a famous regiment and in excellent condition