Something about the Grand Duchy of Oldenburg
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Zebedeus
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Wonderfull esample with some fine features of the superior quality of officer's helmets. I love it a lot also. Congrats.
Zeb
CLOVIS 57
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Indeed, everything from the 0fficier, except :
---absence of 4 stars.
---The “troop” quality of the gold star.
Zeb why do you say 1870? Looks to be 1860.
It’s a beautiful Dragoner helmet.
It’s a beautiful Dragoner helmet.
Sandmann
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You are right, M1867 to M1887 weren’t introduced for mounted troops.
Zebedeus
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Tony, I wrote Mod. 1870 accordingly with J.L. Larcade (tome 2 page 117) because the army of the Duchy of Oldenburg was incorporated into the Prussian Army by a treaty of July 15, 1867.
From October 1, 1867, the Grand Duchy's cavalry regiment became a dragoon regiment and took the name "Oldenburgisches Dragoner Regiment No. 19." The helmet is the Prussian one with the Prussian dragoon eagle with the motto "Mit Got fur Koenig und Vaterland) without the white metal star and the oldenburgische coats of arms. The cockade is the Prussian one and is worn on the right side.
Only with the AKO of March 3, 1870, were the eight -pointed star and the Oldenburg coat of arms added to the Prussian dragoon eagle.
Therefore, with these characteristics, we could call the helmet Mod. 1867/70 or simply Mod. 1870.
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Zebedeus
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Dear Bruno, really an oustanding officers' example. Congratulations.
Like mine it has the Prussian cockade on the right side and the Oldenburg cockade on the left, which could be worn by soldiers who were originally citizens of the Grand Duchy of Oldenburg.
Officers should wear only the Prussian cockade, although I believe the rule was not widely followed.
Zeb
Zebedeus
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Steve, as usual two stunning text-book's officers helmet.
The right one have the chin-strap cover. Is it a mod. 15 or....?
Zeb,
Excellent explanation thank you Zeb.
KAGGR#1
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Zeb
Thanks for the question (that's what all the candidates running for office always say )
I never really did check
i did a deal to get that helmet at one of our S O S shows
I brought it home
took the photo and put it in the display case
I will check it when I can
Steve
Zebedeus
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Thank you Steve. I
I'll stay tuned on this same channel.
Oldenburg
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My God Zeb,
what I would give for that helmet!
If you ever think about sending it on a journey, it would be welcome back here in its old home!
I am always completely blown away when you present exhibits from your collection!
Frank
what I would give for that helmet!
If you ever think about sending it on a journey, it would be welcome back here in its old home!
I am always completely blown away when you present exhibits from your collection!
Best regards
Frank
Zebedeus
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Dear Frank, thank you for the compliments. You're truly kind.My God Zeb,
what I would give for that helmet!
If you ever think about sending it on a journey, it would be welcome back here in its old home!
I am always completely blown away when you present exhibits from your collection!
Best regards
Frank
Fantastic example, Zeb. A likely relic of the 1870/71 war, frequently quoted as "Franco-Prussian war"... except in France, where it is referred to as the "70' war" (la guerre de 70).
