Line eagle on a Jaeger zu Pferde

I have done a little research on Stabsordonanz and there is not a lot out there that I have found that is a complete picture. Stubbs talks about them a bit but there is no continuation into the world M15. I was wrong about the lack of function. They certainly did have a job, and they were not only rare, but exceedingly rare, with only one soldier per staff! There also seems to be some confusion about exactly how military these guys were. But they sure seem to me to be completely military. There is also no clear picture of which size line Eagle was used by these guys. I now totally agree that these had nothing to do with liberty loans. Still looking. :o :) :eek: :D
 
I've been pursuing the subject as well and found a picture plate (Tafel 22) from "Unser Heer" from 1900 that identifies a Saxon Stabsodonanz soldier. It's a print and the man is on the far left in the background holding a horse http://www.landkarten-und-grafiken.de/images/generalstabsreise.jpg


And this is interesting from http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/misc_laender/rinkenis_alte_kirche_1848-50_1864_wk1_dk.htm

Citing a grave marker:
„Hier ruhet Martin Pahl geb: d. 10.September 1839, gest: d. 27.Februar 1864. Stabsordonanz des Königl:Preuss: 3.Armee-Corps. Aus Beiträgen seiner Kameraden der Stabswache errichtet.“

"Here rests Martin Pahl, born... died... Stabsordonanz of the Royal Prussian 3rd Army Corps. Placed through the contributions of his comrades of the Stabswache."

So it would certainly appear that the position was a very miltary one and associated the Staff Guard and hence with the command staff of the unit.

Perhaps the Stabsordonanz rank is the Staff Guard equivalent to a Spiess as command sergeant major.
 
I read that from 1820 on each commanding general in the Prussian army had a staff of three men Stabsordonnanz, each Divisionsgeneral two and each Brigadegeneral one. These were at first referred to as "Armee-Gendarmerie" and were recruited from the cavalry. I do not know though when exactly they were renamed to Stabsordonnanz.

The guy to the far right is a Saxon Stabsordonnanz. This is an uniform reference from Krickel, maybe someone finds the corresponding pictures from him showing Prussia and Baden?
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The actual translation of Ordonanz in this context would be a military orderly. http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Ordonanz.html

So the previous post makes sense in the number of orderlies attached to each rank...the higher the rank, the more staff assigned as orderlies.

It also makes sense that this position was assigned to cavalry troops - among their tasks would be messenger and others requiring rapid execution.

Here's a site with some descriptions of a military orderly's roles from army to army. Among them is body guard and that corresponds to my previous post mentioning the Stabswache donating to erect a monument to their comrade, the Stabs-Ordonanz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(army)

Perhaps someone has an old Imperial army manual that mentions the Stabs-Ordonanz and his duties.
 
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