M16 Stalhelm with Camouflage - Super Bright Colors!

RON

RON

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This one can't be the real deal can it? :-?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-IDed-2-M-G-K-46-WW1-GERMAN-M-16-CAMO-HELMET-w-LINER-CHINSTRAP-/180812245682" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Something not quite right, even the crown wear looks like its been rolled in a bucket of gravel. Agree about those lines, they look to thick.
Original paint underneath tho it seems?
 
To me, it looks like the chinstrap is a replacement. Personally, using a flat brush, I can paint lines that straight and if this guy was a professional painter or sign maker in civilian life, then there you'd have it! I'd imagine the guys who did these worked with what ever brushes they could find. Looks like a lot of people like the helmet, but I'm not really interested in them any more, since there are so many fakes now... as to originality? Another 'have to have it in the hands' to make a judgment and even then it might be wrong (?).

:D Ron
 
RON said:
This one can't be the real deal can it? :-?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-IDed-2-M-G-K-46-WW1-GERMAN-M-16-CAMO-HELMET-w-LINER-CHINSTRAP-/180812245682" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Ron - Just received Haselgrove's "Helmets of the First World War" today. A stunning book with *great* photos. He includes many many examples of stahlhelm camo.

It's not that the colors can't be bright - they can, or the black lines wide (or pencil diameter narrow) they can. I guess it is the overall take on the helmet that sometimes is off-putting. IF your radar goes ding just pass. If you buy it, you will always be hearing that "ding". So when you see one that doesn't ding your radar - go for it.
I'd ship you this new book to look through except the seller spent $16 shipping it to me - a large book!

Eric
 
Look at this guys other stuff. Same bidders on swords medals and other era helmets?????
Shill bidding at its best and a questionable Japanese helmet too.
=;
Jerry
 
Looks that way Jerry :x 4***e is in for a lot of money on almost every item from early swords to to the dodgy jap helmet.
Why do they call it shill bidding btw? Where does the term come from.

Andy
 
ebeeby said:
Ron - Just received Haselgrove's "Helmets of the First World War" today. A stunning book with *great* photos. He includes many many examples of stahlhelm camo.

It's not that the colors can't be bright - they can, or the black lines wide (or pencil diameter narrow) they can. I guess it is the overall take on the helmet that sometimes is off-putting. IF your radar goes ding just pass. If you buy it, you will always be hearing that "ding". So when you see one that doesn't ding your radar - go for it.
I'd ship you this new book to look through except the seller spent $16 shipping it to me - a large book!

Eric
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Hey Eric, you're right: If something doesn't click, don't buy it as otherwise you'll always doubt it...
As for the book, thanks! it's already on my Must Buy list (next time I fly over to your continent).
 
kellerrat said:
Looks that way Jerry :x 4***e is in for a lot of money on almost every item from early swords to to the dodgy jap helmet.
Why do they call it shill bidding btw? Where does the term come from.

Andy
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Shill+bidding" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
I don't see what the hooplah is about. Looks like a nice piece to me. In fact about as nice as they come. Price? More than I would pay, but if you want the best, you have to man up. I don't see any problems with the Japanese helmet either. While I don't know the seller, I have followed some of his auctions in the past, specifically some VERY nice Japanese swords. He always seems to have quality, high end stuff.
Just my opinion.
Steve
 
Sold for $1,675!
Way too much IMO for something that's, to say the least, 'questionable'.
 
Looked like a superb original to me; a helmet that had been keep in a footlocker or at least out of damaging light, dust, tobacco smoke etc for all these years. Someone beat me on the bidding!

Mike
 
a helmet that had been keep in a footlocker or at least out of damaging light, dust, tobacco smoke etc for all these years
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I just cant see that myself, with heavy crown wear on the camo paint and all those chips, I would expect to see at least similar damage to the field grey underneath, and it dosnt look that way. Even if you put the crown wear and the chipping down to period damage, how did the camo paint survive almost intact on high wear points like the edge of the brow the stirnpanzer lugs and the rivots?
As for price, Im with Jerry. Just take a look at all the sellers other items. 4***e has bid on most of them and won non of them. Also his feedback dosnt seem to go up, even with the apparent funds available to him. Save the seller and watch the bidding.
I guess do as Eric says
IF your radar goes ding just pass. If you buy it, you will always be hearing that "ding". So when you see one that doesn't ding your radar - go for it.
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You cant go wrong :D
 
I have about 20 x original camos in my collection and have had dozens more pass through the collection. Some in similar condition to this one. Paint color, texture, pattern all correct, but with minimal damage and minimal exposure to light over the past 94 years. Wear on the lugs and rim looks OK. Remember this M1916 may have been used for 18 months before it was painted in camo scheme, so you would expect the feldgrau interior to show more wear.
Agree that the chinstrap is a replacement.
Mike
 
The helmet was a very well done made to deceive helmet. The final price was very reasonable or Fair IMO. IF it was a real untouched helmet. Advanced collectors would have paid more if this Pot was good. The Shill bidder here bid over 100 times ONE HUNDERED TIMES on this sellers stuff and guess what..............He Didn't bring home a thing! WTH? Just seems ODD to me.
:-({|=
Off my soapbox now and onward to the SOS.
Jerry
 
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