Prussian infantry helmet M1867 for enlisted men

Sandmann

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Dear fellow forum members,
today I'd like to introduce my latest find, which I'm very happy about 🤩
It's a very rare and well-preserved Prussian M1867 enlisted man's helmet, which is completely original to my knowledge. I have seen Saxon, Baden, Wurttemberg and even Saxon duchy helmets on the market a few times in recent years. However, this was the first Prussian M1867 enlisted man's helmet I saw for sale with the correct type of attachment and in good condition.
It rarely happens that an item looks even better after receiving it than in the photos in the ad, but this was the case here. I'm extremely grateful to the seller for his honesty 🙏:)🙏

General Informations about the helmet M1867:
Efforts were always made to reduce the weight of the infantrymen's equipment, which is why the rear spine of the M1867 helmet was eliminated. This was probably the most obvious innovation of this helmet model. Another innovation was the 10.5 cm to 11.5 cm high spike with a round spike base (diameter 8.0 cm) and which was also secured to the helmet with split pins instead of bolts. Furthermore, a round front visor and a slider mounting system for the eagle emblem. The weight saving may have been minimal, but every gram counted.
The just mentioned slider attachment with corresponding mounts on the helmet was used on the M1867 helmet only. Besides the weight saving, it was an attempt to introduce a quickly removable emblem, as the shiny eagles reflected the sunlight too much in battle, making the soldiers a good target for snipers. The idea may have made sense at first glance, but not all soldiers took good care of their equipment, what the people in charge had actually assumed. As a result, too many eagle emblems were lost in the wars of unification at the end of the 1860s and in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71 🫣, which is why the old fastening method with threaded pin and squared nut was reintroduced in 1871. The rear spine was reintroduced in 1871 as well, as the wars had also shown that the M1867 helmets were no longer durable enough to withstand field use.
Also in 1867, i.e. on the helmet M1867, the cockade diameter was officially reduced for the first time (the new diameter was 5,0 cm) since the Pickelhaube was introduced. Some M1860s may have already had a smaller cockade, but this was contrary to the regulations. However, the regulation wasn't always followed, as the soldiers of the time weren't just conscientious, but also quite fashion-conscious. And too large cockades on a low helmet simply didn't look very pleasing 😶 Smaller deviations from the clothing guidelines can be found from time to time, especially for property helmets, and seem to have been tolerated.


My helmet M1867:
  • Helmet shell is 11.0 cm high,
What is remarkable about this helmet is that the shell was made without a seam. Normally, Prussian helmets at this time were still made with a seam, which was hidden behind the rear spine in earlier examples for aesthetic reasons. On the M1867 the seam moved to the front due to the missing rear spine and became mostly covered by the eagle emblem. However, the manufacturer of this M1867 was obviously ahead of his times. Although there were also early experiments with seamless helmets in Prussia, somehow this design didn't really catch on until then. I remember, for example, an M1842 that was pressed entirely from one piece (i.e. helmet shell and visors without seams). I suspect the reason for this was the lack of options for reworking such helmets, as it was often the case during the long period of use and which was of course much easier to manage with more components.
  • The spike is 10,5 cm high, the round spikebase has a diameter of 7,7 cm. Like the early spikes with the cruciform base the spike neck still has 2 ventilation holes only.
  • The total height of this helmet with spike is 26,0 cm.
  • The round front visor has a width of 4,0 cm. The width of the rear visor is 4,7 cm.
  • The eagle emblem (measured with a tape measure) measures 12,0 cm (H) x 14,0 cm (W). The sliders that were soldered to the back of the eagle are 3,3 cm long
  • The flat chinscales are 2,2 cm wide at the back and taper to 1,3 cm at the front.
  • The rosettes have a diameter of 2,7 cm.
  • The diameter of the cockade is 5,0 cm.
  • The enlisted man's liner is correctly 9-lashed and made of sheepskin. Unfortunately, the upperskin of the leather is somewhat fissured due to incorrect storage, but that's ok for such an old helmet and the liner is still complete after all.
  • Last but not least, the weight of the helmet is 612 g.
I hope you'll enjoy the photos and don't hesitate to ask questions if you are interested in anything else.


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Congrats Sandy.
This model is really rare and very difficult to find. In my opinion I believe it is a model for advanced collectors with a fine palate.
This one you show us is in pretty complete and intouched condition and very desirable indeed.
Well done my friend.
 
Thank you all for your kind words 🙏 :) 🙏
It was offered on ebay and normally I didn't want to buy a helmet at the moment. But I had at least to make an offer for such a rare helmet. I was surprised that the seller accepted it immediately, but then I thought that it was a scam because only moments after my purchase, another user offered another M1867 helmet, which was obviously a fake. I'm very happy that it wasn't like that 🫣😄
 
Thank you very much Tony and Zeb. Also for the photos of your M1867 Zeb, it’s is a fantastic helmet in wonderful condition. I love it and think the more photos of different helmets of the same helmet type the better. It‘s a very valuable archive for beginners and advanced collectors.
 
If possible I would like to add to this fantastic topic created by Sandy a M1867 of my collection.
This one is a quite rare 1th Garde Pionier Battalion. It cames untouched with all its superb patina that I absolutely did not want to clean or remove.
The helmet si complete and in very good condition.
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Zeb
I don't know the early helmets
It is very nice , but please tell me how you know that it is Pioneer ?
Thanks
Steve
 
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