Steve Nick
Well-known member
This is another helmet I’ve had for decades and never really paid a lot of attention to it. I knew it had some issues and needed some TLC to make it as “correct” as it could be but until my retirement, I never spent the time.
I’d like to solicit your more informed opinions as to what this helmet needs.
I got it in a swap with a militaria book dealer who wanted a couple of Imperial era cigarette card books. “Orden” being one of them. All that to say’ I don’t have a lot invested in this so if it requires some investment to make it right then so be it.
Here’s what I know about it.
I believe it to be a Model 1867 enlisted ranks due to the presence of the border strip between front and rear visors. It has no maker or issue markings anywhere.
The Wappen appears to be the correct enlisted plate due to no voiding between the eagles’ legs and body but the attachment is via two round headed studs with prongs?
There is a small circular hole through the shell to the right of one of these studs.
There is an additional small vertical hole that appears to have been punched through the front of the shell under the wappen. Related to liner attachment?
I was told at the time I got it that it had Russian chin scales. I can’t see the difference.
The bolts securing the chin scales I think are repros? I suspect the rosettes are not correct.
The spike tip appears to be tombak. It should be nickel/steel.
The inside of the front visor is green and there are remnants of black paint on the rear neck guard.
Single Prussian kokarde on right side is correct as of 1867.
I’d like to solicit your more informed opinions as to what this helmet needs.
I got it in a swap with a militaria book dealer who wanted a couple of Imperial era cigarette card books. “Orden” being one of them. All that to say’ I don’t have a lot invested in this so if it requires some investment to make it right then so be it.
Here’s what I know about it.
I believe it to be a Model 1867 enlisted ranks due to the presence of the border strip between front and rear visors. It has no maker or issue markings anywhere.
The Wappen appears to be the correct enlisted plate due to no voiding between the eagles’ legs and body but the attachment is via two round headed studs with prongs?
There is a small circular hole through the shell to the right of one of these studs.
There is an additional small vertical hole that appears to have been punched through the front of the shell under the wappen. Related to liner attachment?
I was told at the time I got it that it had Russian chin scales. I can’t see the difference.
The bolts securing the chin scales I think are repros? I suspect the rosettes are not correct.
The spike tip appears to be tombak. It should be nickel/steel.
The inside of the front visor is green and there are remnants of black paint on the rear neck guard.
Single Prussian kokarde on right side is correct as of 1867.