Regimental history IR75

[Grabenmaxx]

Hi,

I am looking for the regimental history of IR 75. But even more specifically for information on their actions in August and september 1914.
Is there anyone who could assist with that please?

Rgds

 

[argonne]

Hi,

Unfortunately is this Regimentsgeschichte not online available and however is this book very very brief...

I you are understanding french, I recommend you this book:

De Brême jusqu'à Nampcel: Le 75e Régiment d'Infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement: 1914, le 75e régiment d'infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement : De la grande guerre, Patrimoine: Amazon.es: Libros

De Brême jusqu'à Nampcel: Le 75e Régiment d'Infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement: 1914, le 75e régiment d'infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement : De la grande guerre, Patrimoine: Amazon.es: Libros

www.amazon.es

I bought it, because I wanted myself to retrace the events experienced by the first wearer of my named helmet, the OYV Gefreiter Robert Reinberg from the 3/JR75, the "Caspari Kompagnie", named to his famous Kommandeur (Reinbergs nametag has been later partially torn off, probably by the second wearer who did not add his name in the helmet). Reinberg has been seriously wounded on the 20.9.14 during the fighting at Nampcel. He started his one year duty September or October 1913. He would have finished it September 1914, but by beginning of war, he was sent to the front. He probably promoted to the rank of Gefreiter Mars or April 1914, after 5-6 months of duty, as was generally the case for these recruits. This book is very complete for the first war months.

Philippe

 

[Grabenmaxx]

Thanks Philippe. Am I seeing that correctly that they want 360 for it? That's quite a number..

I have a Haube of the regiment from the same year and also with the double regimental mark. Any idea why that was done?

 

[Lars13]

Hi,

There is a copy on Hathitrust: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100678229. Should be visible with VPN if you're not in the US.

Regards,
Lars

 

[gino1]

Hallo

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www.chasse-aux-livres.fr

 

[argonne]

Thanks Philippe. Am I seeing that correctly that they want 360 for it? That's quite a number..

I have a Haube of the regiment from the same year and also with the double regimental mark. Any idea why that was done?


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Hi,
Sorry for the "expensive" link. I just put the first link I saw but you will find this book easily for 30-40 €.
There are no double markings on our helmets. The superior mark is the unit marking J.R.75 and the one under is for the first Bataillon: I.B.75
Look at the "J" of JR75 and at the "I" of IB75. They are quite different. Those markings are typical for this unit, I saw other ones similar on other helmets of the JR75.
By the way, you helmet is looking very fine with a beautiful gilt finish of the Wappen. The wearer was a Portepee Unteroffizier (Vizefeldwebel or Feldwebel). Do you see a name in the shell? Does your helmet also show on the other side the Reich Portepee cockade?
Philippe

 

[Grabenmaxx]

Now I see it indeed. The J and I are different.

Thank you for the nice comment. There aren't any markings or references to a previous owner to research unfortunately. I bought the helmet about 10 years ago from Karel van Bosstraeten. There was no Reickskokarde back then and I must say I never added one.

 

[Andy be Prussian]

I do have some curiosity on the 75th infantry regiment and their involvement in the war. My favorite pickel is this made of paper/ cardboard. It is very uniquely marked with white paint and in a “old English” font. It also has the name Beck on there

 

[Grabenmaxx]

That's a very nice one Andy.
Do you maybe have a picture of the insjde of the dome?

I was taking some helmets out of the cabinet the other day and I also took another look at the one from IR75 and I noticed there has indeed been a label in it. Only fragments have remained, I can't really make anything usefull of it.
Other markings are indeed not present.

 

[Lars13]

I can't really make anything usefull of it.

It's part of the regimental designation, readible on the lable are "Infant" and "nseat.) Nr", the complete designation would be Infanterie Regiment Bremen (1. hanseatisches) Nr. 75, where on the label Infanterie and hanseatisches have been abbreviated to "Infant." and "hanseat."

 

[Grabenmaxx]

You have Eagle eyes Lars!

The small part of the label at the top with the "t" (or "nt"?) Is a part of the rank then I assume, considering where it's placed. Or is there another option?

 

[Lars13]

The small part of the label at the top with the "t" (or "nt"?) Is a part of the rank then I assume

Yes, I think so too, but I don't know which rank it is.

 

[argonne]

You have Eagle eyes Lars!

The small part of the label at the top with the "t" (or "nt"?) Is a part of the rank then I assume, considering where it's placed. Or is there another option?

I would say "Sergeant" . It would make sense, because such ranks were then later promoted to Vizefeldwebel (your helmet shows Portepee Unteroffizier Kokarden
It's a pity that the company number is not there anymore, one can only see the "p." for "Comp." or "Komp.".
One can also see the rest of three letters of the name...The one in the middle seems to be a "S" This guy must have served in the 1, 2, 3 or 4K because of the IB stamp on the neckguard...
I also think that the name must be very short (only 4 or 5 letters) depending on the layout of the nametag, which often has to comply with precise centring standards (basing on my personal observations).

Philippe

 

[Grabenmaxx]

Great addition, thanks Philippe.
Sergeant would make perfect sense.

The name would indeed be relatively short since the first visible letter is longer (indicating the capital letter with which his name began) and the blank space left of it, but I guess 6 letters would still be possible.

If I have to take a guess I'd think the first letter would be a P, B, R or D. After that some vowel and then the S you mentioned.

I took a quick look at the Verlustlisten of the regiment and also looking at soldiers originating from Bremen but the results are really extensive. Reminds one again of the huge number of men that fell victim to this war..

 

[argonne]

If I have to take a guess I'd think the first letter would be a P, B, R or D. After that some vowel and then the S you mentioned.

I agree, E and F could also be possible as first letter.
Because the rank of sergeant was essentially reserved for peacetime recruits who had signed up for several years (known as ‘Kapitulante’), up to a maximum of 12 years, after which they were generally promoted to Vizefeldwebel or Vizewachtmeister and very often left the army to take up a civil service post (in the police, customs, etc.).
In this case, it is also highly likely that this helmet either did not see action – if it remained in the possession of the soldier upon his return to civilian life – or that it ceased to be the soldier’s property once he left the army prior to mobilisation (the helmet is dated 1900 and a 12-year-old Kapitulant would have left the army in 1912–13) and it was returned to the Kammer for distribution to another Unteroffizier Portepee upon mobilisation in August 1914 (in a manner of speaking, a reallocation, as the name tag had been torn off – much like my example above of Robert Reinberg, who was wounded in September 1914 and whose helmet was reallocated to another recruit).
It is always important, if possible, to know the circumstances in which the helmet was found, because there are unwritten rules, established on the basis of numerous confirmed observations drawing parallels between a soldier’s rank, his period of service and the circumstances and locations in which the helmets were found . Either in Germany, in the family of the former wearer, or from a French, Belgian or English family whose ancestor may have brought the helmet back as a trophy. In the case of finds in the USA or Canada, these are very often souvenirs brought back after 1945 by GIs, also from the German family of the former wearer, as German families were suffering from famine at that time and had sold many personal belongings to buy food and simply to survive.
I have helmets in my collection that meet these three different criteria.
Philippe

 

[Gabi]

Hi,

Unfortunately is this Regimentsgeschichte not online available and however is this book very very brief...

I you are understanding french, I recommend you this book:

De Brême jusqu'à Nampcel: Le 75e Régiment d'Infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement: 1914, le 75e régiment d'infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement : De la grande guerre, Patrimoine: Amazon.es: Libros

De Brême jusqu'à Nampcel: Le 75e Régiment d'Infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement: 1914, le 75e régiment d'infanterie allemand dans la guerre de mouvement : De la grande guerre, Patrimoine: Amazon.es: Libros

www.amazon.es

I bought it, because I wanted myself to retrace the events experienced by the first wearer of my named helmet, the OYV Gefreiter Robert Reinberg from the 3/JR75, the "Caspari Kompagnie", named to his famous Kommandeur (Reinbergs nametag has been later partially torn off, probably by the second wearer who did not add his name in the helmet). Reinberg has been seriously wounded on the 20.9.14 during the fighting at Nampcel. He started his one year duty September or October 1913. He would have finished it September 1914, but by beginning of war, he was sent to the front. He probably promoted to the rank of Gefreiter Mars or April 1914, after 5-6 months of duty, as was generally the case for these recruits. This book is very complete for the first war months.

Philippe

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Hello Argonne, Robert Reinberg is my great-grandfather. He survived the First and Second World Wars. Best wishes, Gabi