Ulan Regt. 1,2,3 Officer Tschapka

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UR's 1,2,3 officers wore this style of wappen on their tschapka. The "before" pictures:

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The right chin scale although wired together does have all of it's scales but one. The left however, is missing the last, 3. Both are going to have to be rebuilt and hopefully, I can provide the missing pieces.

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The shell is rippled and frankly, I have no clue as to whether I can fix this. I believe this piece was made to be light weight on the head so the thin leather has ended up in this condition after 100+ years.

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The liner showing the Graf Crown and cypher which seems to be an "E" to my eyes has to be restitched.

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Hopefully, some of our European members can provide some additional information on this cypher.
 
Very nice tschapska!
Whell worth a restoration.
Al I can say about the crown and cypher, it that it is indeed a nobility crown. But to me it seems to miss a cypher (letter).
The way the one is positioned and the shadow you get to see right of the cypher in place...looks like a "J".
There is a forum specialized in nobility research, but they are French;http://forum.tempsdesherauts.com/
 
Very nice project Brian, The construction looks a little different than the one you restored for me. Is it a different material? Look forward to watching the project progress. I did see the other day an officers field badge, if I recall where, I will let you know.
 
All the best for your project, Brian :thumb up:
Unfortunately I can't help a lot, only with the Stiching...
The Crown has 7 Balls on top of the Peaks and this stands for a modern Baron-Crown (in German: Moderne Freiherren-Krone).
Concerning the Cypher I'm in line with "stuka f", the existing one seems to be an "E". It's off-center position together with the discoloration looks like a missing "I" or "J". But the Monograms have been very ornate sometimes, it's hard to say it exactly.
 
Thanks for your comments everyone. We now know that the type of Crown indicates "newer nobility" rather than an old noble family. I have no clue as to which letter this cypher represents...could be but I do see now the shadow of the J missing letter. You can also tell that there is something missing by the fact that the remaining letter is not centered on the crown. There were 2 initials.
Yes Scout, this is a different construction, we have 4 segments stitched together to form the shell and stem for the mortarboard top. I can see from the inside that the top is cardboard covered by thin leather. i will be taking the cloth liner out and will post some interior shots as well. More photos to come.
 
One more thing...The "Modern Baron Crown" does not necessarily belong to the newer nobility. But the type of the Crown changed in the end of the 18.th century. This crown could also be one for the old nobility.
 
I asked myself the same question. Outer layer or the complete shell that is bumped? What is the material-all leather or leather covered? Like this Tschapka!!
 
Regarding the cypher....The owner restitched it in the wrong position, it was hanging by one original thread loop. I will fix this and post pics once I have the liner stitched back on to the sweatband. I really hope that we can ID the original owner of this helmet.
A picture of the wappen now that it has been cleaned:
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My next task is to rebuild the chin scales and I will post photos of this soon.
 
Ok, let's take a look at the "before" pictures of the chin scales on this lovely old mistreated piece of History. It is a survivor but certainly bears the wounds of a hard life over the century!
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One of the scales, is mostly complete but the "male side", is missing numerous scales including the all important end piece which links the 2 halves together. This picture, shows the scales plus replacements which were given to me by Randy T, last SOS.
Typically, the end fitting and the next 2-3 smaller scales are the ones missing in any chin strap rebuild. However, it can go much further up the scale depending on what the helmet has experienced. I will be renewing the pictures in my old post "Anatomy of a Chin Scale" shortly....rebuilding one is not an easy process, at least not for me. My restoration mentor, the late George Birringer was a master at it and I am trying to follow in his footsteps.

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Here, we see the condition of the reverse side of the female scale (both scales actually). The leather backing is disintegrating to dust due to red rot. There is evidence here, that at least 2 collectors tried to fix the scales in the past...one tried coarse white cotton thread and glued new leather to the backing and then another collector, employed fine wire to try and reinforce the scales. There is at least one handmade 3 prong scale replacement which can be seen on the upper male scale (#5 from the end fitting). We modern day collectors have to realise, that these guys had no access to a world wide web of fellow hauben collectors who might provide parts for restoration.

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Here, I am in the midst of of removing each scale starting with the largest one where the kokarden and bosses go through. Things are so rotten than all the backing disintegrates and breaks up. A dirty job!
The card board seen in the picture is my template for cutting out the backing leather for the chin scales.

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Each scale has been removed and numbered. All staples are preserved, because they are specially designed for this application. Sometimes, they break due to rust and then you have to use a modern one but if at all possible you keep the originals.

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The last photo in this series...eh?.. is a tribute to the Great White North and it's excellent beer industry! Everytime, I go to the SOS and we have our apres show gatherings, my American friends tend to order/bring "light" beers"....ugh!!! Then some do order bourbon ??? So my friends, where do these cardboard strips come from and how are they being used in this chin scale rebuild?? To be continued...eh? :)
 
Brian,

Best guess on the owner, the crown with seven tines over the gothic "E", would be
Oblt Freiherr von Entress-Fuersteneck, Uhlan Regt. 3.

Dennis
 
Thank you Denis, I tend to think that it is an "E" as well and I guess your ID makes total sense. I haven't messed with the cypher yet other than to take out the cloth liner which needed to be restitched.
 
Brian,

Maybe a fellow member has a copy of the UR3 Regimental History, and can find a photo of
von Entress-Furestenenck?

It would be nice to display with the helmet!
 
Yes Denis...that would be very cool, if someone could provide an image of the original owner. I could not see a Duke not having pictures taken of himself.
 
This is coming along very nicely . :D :D :D

Are the indentations on the skull through to the other side ?

Is the skull made of 2 different layers of leather like the front bill ?
 
This is good to go. I am following this rebuild with interest. I have a couple of rotting chin scale sets that need rebuilding. Thank you Brian for doing this.
 
Matthew, the dents do show on the inside of the shell. i don't think we are dealing with 2 layers just one thin one stitched together in sections. I believe, this was done to decrease the weight of the cap. I will post interior shots of the shell soon and we can discuss further. I have to finish the scales which are giving me a bit of trouble. Next, I will remove the front visor which needs a restitch. It is then that I will try to get the dents out of the shell. This will involve wetting the areas and trying to push them out and allow to dry back in proper position. The visor also has a split in the thin leather which folds over and is stitched to the shell. This area is directly below where the wappen tail feathers are.
 
I finally finished the female chin scale last night.
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What I have been trying to do, is cut and punch card board templates which I can use for any rebuild. The length of a chin scale varies. So far, I have encountered 14, 15, 16, 17 scales plus end fittings. It seems simple, but as with anything "Hauben" it is not . The size of the scales (L &W) is different depending on manufacture. On this complete scale alone, it took me 3 tries before I got a correct new backing strip for the scales. It would be natural for any observer to suggest....why not use the old centre strip as your template to make a new one?? The answer in this and in most cases, is that the staple strip has broken or rotted away so you can't use it. I think my real problem here, is that I do not have a brain for Mathematics :( . I am a Realist not a Romantic, I have played in Rock Bands for 50 years, so I can handle the simple counting which is part of all music and scale rebuild! I taught History for 35 years which is an abstract social science and involves heavy Psychology in manipulating adolescents. However, in chin scale rebuilds,.......argh!! I get it done but can not establish an easy "modern" way of doing it. :eek: I think, the realist has to suck it up and "realize" that this is the way it is. There is no definite answer here .
 
Brian- I take exception to your comment on light Beer we drink down here.

Every year I ask if you brought any Molson Brador or any other Canadian beer, and all you ever have to show for it is Walmart wine....

Put your money where your mouth is and bring down some good stuff for us to consume :p

Brian knows I am kidding so need for anyone to get feathers ruffled.

James
 
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