So the problem was, if even Rastatt does not have a Waffenrock dated prior to 1871, what can a guy hope to find to display with his M1842 Pickelhaube? An 1812 EK is too early, a Waffenrock is impossible, an 1870 EK is too late, and a Dreyse Zündnadelgewehr (needle gun) Model 1848 is also too late.
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/dunkelblau/helmets/dbh09.htm
Everything below is the result of networking between good friends: Joe Semen (member #82) who tranfered this from his fine collection to mine, and Wyliecoyote (aka George member #12) who worked tenaciously to gather me information on it.
So the answer was an 1836 dated Prussian smoothbore infantry musket Infanterie-Gewehr M/1809 Neupreussisches Gewehr M.1809/39 in all original condition. The "New Prussian" designation was to indicate it was a new issue to take the place of the existing "Fusilier-Gewehr M/1787" and it's 1796 "Modification". Basically, the difference was a musket more on the order of the French style rather than the previous Prussian style from the era of Frederick The Great.
The caliber is an impressive 18 mm. The musket was made originally as an M1809 and utilized a flintlock mechanism. In 1839, all M1809 were converted to percussion cap and designated M.1809/1839). The conversion consisted of closing the touch hole, changing the breech plug to one having a hole bored in its face, with nipple screwed to the plug, at a slant, connecting with the hole at the rear. Furthermore, the new hammer was installed during the transformation.
This example was manufactured at the arsenal at Neisse in what was Upper Silesia in 1836 and accordingly marked on the lock plate, barrel, and butt plate. As an Infantry example, the furniture was brass (trigger guard, butt plate, and barrel bands). Jäger battalions utilized iron furniture.
The markings appears to be: Weapon No. 405, 6th Companie, 11th Landwehr Regiment. So both the Pickelhaube and musket are Landwehr. There could not be a better match. As "405" is a very high number for a company, it could be that the weapons were marked to the regiment instead of just the Company, or maybe to the Batallion? Note the spelling at that time in German was Companie. Around 1900 it changed to Kompanie.
And finally, Preußen soldiers wearing the M1842 Pickelhaube and armed with this same Neupreussisches Gewehr M.1809/39. Note the Infantry have brass furniture and the Jäger has iron furniture.
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/dunkelblau/helmets/dbh09.htm
Everything below is the result of networking between good friends: Joe Semen (member #82) who tranfered this from his fine collection to mine, and Wyliecoyote (aka George member #12) who worked tenaciously to gather me information on it.
So the answer was an 1836 dated Prussian smoothbore infantry musket Infanterie-Gewehr M/1809 Neupreussisches Gewehr M.1809/39 in all original condition. The "New Prussian" designation was to indicate it was a new issue to take the place of the existing "Fusilier-Gewehr M/1787" and it's 1796 "Modification". Basically, the difference was a musket more on the order of the French style rather than the previous Prussian style from the era of Frederick The Great.
The caliber is an impressive 18 mm. The musket was made originally as an M1809 and utilized a flintlock mechanism. In 1839, all M1809 were converted to percussion cap and designated M.1809/1839). The conversion consisted of closing the touch hole, changing the breech plug to one having a hole bored in its face, with nipple screwed to the plug, at a slant, connecting with the hole at the rear. Furthermore, the new hammer was installed during the transformation.
This example was manufactured at the arsenal at Neisse in what was Upper Silesia in 1836 and accordingly marked on the lock plate, barrel, and butt plate. As an Infantry example, the furniture was brass (trigger guard, butt plate, and barrel bands). Jäger battalions utilized iron furniture.
The markings appears to be: Weapon No. 405, 6th Companie, 11th Landwehr Regiment. So both the Pickelhaube and musket are Landwehr. There could not be a better match. As "405" is a very high number for a company, it could be that the weapons were marked to the regiment instead of just the Company, or maybe to the Batallion? Note the spelling at that time in German was Companie. Around 1900 it changed to Kompanie.
And finally, Preußen soldiers wearing the M1842 Pickelhaube and armed with this same Neupreussisches Gewehr M.1809/39. Note the Infantry have brass furniture and the Jäger has iron furniture.
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