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 Post subject: Ottoman(?) sword , Julius Voos, Solingen
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:00 pm 
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This Turkish sword came my way at an antique show yesterday. It appears to be based on an Austrian pattern and was made by "Julius Voos Fabrique D'Armes Solingen". Both sides of the plated blade are etched with stands of arms surmounted by a crescent moon & star. Any info or comments on this odd bird would be appreciated. Here are some pics.

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 Post subject: Re: Ottoman(?) sword , Julius Voos, Solingen
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:04 am 
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Len, from what I understand is that "Julius Voos Fabrique D'Armes Solingen" made swords, were commonly seen in the Ottoman Imperial Army from the 1876 period onward (though they could date earlier to that).

The Australian War Memorial collection : RELAWM15848 - Turkish Officer's Sword and Scabbard http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/RELAWM15848 has a very similar sword to this one made by "Julius Voos Fabrique D'Armes Solingen". The AWM one was "This Turkish officer's sword was captured during a search carried out by British troops for arms in Baghdad. The city was quartered into small blocks and each Section of British troops were detailed to search homes within its boundaries."

The Imperial War Museum, London has one as well. # WEA 1192 http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30001035 attributed again the Ottoman Turkish WW1

Here is another version - http://www.alliance-encheres.com/fr/vie ... dlot=55571

I would put this sword into the 1876 period. And given that there were Austrian and Hungarian officers serving in Ottoman Turkey since the 1850s, it could be linked to these officers. The Imperial Army and Navy swords became more standardised, and these are illustrated in the publication: Askeri Müze ve Kültür Sitesti Komutanligi. (1986) Osmanli askeri teskilat ve kiyafetleri: 1876-1908 [Ottoman military organization and uniforms] Yayinlari. Use of swords with 'low' basket guards (without the star and crescent badge) - as with yours - was authorised for officers - staff, regimental colonel, adjutant-major, as well as Artillery lieutenants (upwards).

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 Post subject: Re: Ottoman(?) sword , Julius Voos, Solingen
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:28 pm 
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Hi CF,
Thanks very much for the information. I'm very happy to discover that it does indeed date from the time of the Ottoman Empire.

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Len


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