Does anybody know what type Tschapka this is?

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Does anybody know what type Tschapka this is?

Post by SkipperJohn » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:31 pm

I am posting this for a friend who is primarily a WW2 collector, but he came up with this recently and asked if I would be interested in it.
At first I thought that it might be Austrian, but after looking at photos of Austrian Tschapkas I'm not so sure.

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The leather/fiber shell is similar to a Pickelhaube shell with chin scale reinforcements on each side.

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The top holding up the mortar board (the red part) is nothing but cloth. There is no leather underneath it, only cloth. The remaining metal fittings are nickel silver.

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The mortar board itself is made of leather and there is a slot that appears to be for a Feldzeichen. The cord is sewn on.

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The liner is the Pickelhaube type and the top is held on with a single knurled nut.

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Does anybody know what this is? The photos of Austrian Tschapkas that I have seen have more cord (up the sides of the base and criss-crossed across the mortar board) than this one. Could this be a theatrical piece?

Any info is welcomed.
He wants to sell it, so if you know what it is and you want it, pm me. I am certain that it will be cheap.

John :)

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Re: Does anybody know what type Tschapka this is?

Post by woznotwos » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:20 pm

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It looks like a pre war enlisted Austrian lancer :-k
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Post by woznotwos » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:08 pm

Actually may be the very same helmet pictured John. There is a seller who listed this picture that is now just offering up the wappen and bosses with strap. Maybe he realised the helmet wasn't right but the boss/wappen were. Where did your friend purchase it from , any idea ?
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Re: Does anybody know what type Tschapka this is?

Post by SkipperJohn » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:01 pm

woznotwos wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:08 pm
Actually may be the very same helmet pictured John. There is a seller who listed this picture that is now just offering up the wappen and bosses with strap. Maybe he realised the helmet wasn't right but the boss/wappen were. Where did your friend purchase it from , any idea ?
It is the exact same helmet. It came from a dealer in Phoenix, Arizona.
I think that it may be a theatrical piece with some original parts. The liner looks like an old original however. I think the dealer stripped the original parts and sold the rest.
My friend got it as the result of a batch purchase.
He threw a fake Wappen on it and is asking $100.00 US.
I asked here if anybody knew what it was so I could inform my friend. I didn't get any info.
For all I know it could be an extremely rare Tschako from Bolivia.

John :)

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Post by woznotwos » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:29 am

:D :D , yes probably Bolivian
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Post by alte helm zimmer » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:58 pm

Mystery tschapka-- I had one years ago and I believe it had a Polish eagle .... look at the Polish museum sites--- I believe I saw one there recently .. Good Luck,,,, Or perhaps American Lancer?? ca 1890

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Does anybody know what type Tschapka this is

Post by Michaelvog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:12 pm

Hmm well I dont know a lot about birds but I dont think its a eagle, a red tailed hawk maybe.. maybe even a falcon? Wish I could be more help but Im pretty sure its a hawk of some type...

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