Hessen Leib Helmet and others
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CLOVIS 57
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Another little help in differentiating a JR115 M95 from an RBA18 M15 for the JR115
---M 95 pre-war => majority manufacturer Maury in 0ffenbach am Main
---Wartime M15s => majority and perhaps exclusive manufacturer: Martin Mayer in Mainz. (note the Teller in tinplate, painted black).
---M 95 pre-war => majority manufacturer Maury in 0ffenbach am Main
---Wartime M15s => majority and perhaps exclusive manufacturer: Martin Mayer in Mainz. (note the Teller in tinplate, painted black).
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Thanks to Sandy we now have the German 1897 regulations that specify the composition of the "Tombak" used for the 1895 Wappen (https://www.pickelhaubes.com/xf/thr...-for-pickelhauben-and-shakos-from-1897.18596/), as 86 - 89 % copper, 14 - 11 % zinc.
A quick internet search shows that to be the "golden"-coloured composition of brass, confirming the observations "in the field".
Regards,
Lars
Spiker
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My latest Hessian.
Near mint condition, and without a doubt one of my rarest helmets.
There is a makers stamp inside which I was able to read with the help of Colonel J’s website,
The helmet was made by “L.Schmidt-Rauch DARMSTADT” .
Production of the filz helmet stopped around April 1915.
Near mint condition, and without a doubt one of my rarest helmets.
There is a makers stamp inside which I was able to read with the help of Colonel J’s website,
The helmet was made by “L.Schmidt-Rauch DARMSTADT” .
Production of the filz helmet stopped around April 1915.
Spiker
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Fette beute Ed, well done
thanks !
pickelhauben
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Very nice
argonne
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I saw this helmet sold by Karsten last week. Named on the neckguard to a F. Budde...Quite expensive in my opinion, but sure, very scarce!
As I wrote Karsten, there was no Budde in the LGR115 but a Friedrich Budde at the RJR254, that was partially formed by the LGR115.
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One of its brother in arms... That I could bought some years ago from Colonel Joe Robinson, thanks to him again! White metal too (maillechort / german silver) but "only" with classic hessian Wappen.
Hessian RJR254 was formed from Felbataillonen 70, 71 and 72, formed themselves from LGR115, JR168 and JR116.
On this scarce pict of the RJR254, you can observe a mixity of leather helmets of the LGR115 and felt helmets with classic hessian Wappen. No doubt that the pattern of Ed´s helmet could have been worn in this unit too.
I am also owning a period pict showing a Landsturm guy of the XVIII 48 (Landsturm-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon Rödelheim) wearing such a felt LGR115 helmet:
Philippe
As I wrote Karsten, there was no Budde in the LGR115 but a Friedrich Budde at the RJR254, that was partially formed by the LGR115.
Verlustlisten 1. Weltkrieg, page 9934: Budde Friedrich (Frankfurt a. M.)
One of its brother in arms... That I could bought some years ago from Colonel Joe Robinson, thanks to him again! White metal too (maillechort / german silver) but "only" with classic hessian Wappen.
Hessian RJR254 was formed from Felbataillonen 70, 71 and 72, formed themselves from LGR115, JR168 and JR116.
On this scarce pict of the RJR254, you can observe a mixity of leather helmets of the LGR115 and felt helmets with classic hessian Wappen. No doubt that the pattern of Ed´s helmet could have been worn in this unit too.
I am also owning a period pict showing a Landsturm guy of the XVIII 48 (Landsturm-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon Rödelheim) wearing such a felt LGR115 helmet:
Philippe
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Spiker
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Yes Philippe , that is the helmet we are talking about, my spending is my concern only so expensive or not when I find a gem I go for it and I never regreted it so far.
There was surely a lot of mixing during those war years , a helmet was a helmet, I heve seen many strange numbers especially in Hessen helmets, but I look at the helmet itself first , no double holes, no traces of an other fitting , homogenic wear and all these thing we all very well know.
Your knowledge of Pickelhaubes is extending mine by miles , and I’m happy to have that name explained . Thanks
There was surely a lot of mixing during those war years , a helmet was a helmet, I heve seen many strange numbers especially in Hessen helmets, but I look at the helmet itself first , no double holes, no traces of an other fitting , homogenic wear and all these thing we all very well know.
Your knowledge of Pickelhaubes is extending mine by miles , and I’m happy to have that name explained . Thanks
KAGGR#1
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I just noticed, the lion on the left has lines running thru his body .The lion on the right does not the lines ?
I don't know why the difference? Steve
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Spiker
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I can spot lines one the front leg but very faint.
Here’s an other detail pic, can’t have too much pictures.
KAGGR#1
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Great helmetI can spot lines one the front leg but very faint.
Here’s an other detail pic, can’t have too much pictures.
View attachment 48173
I see the lines very well under the loins neck and going across his tail
Steve
John Josef
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Really beautiful examples
The condition of the felt really is amazing in comparison to the other materials.
Felt hats really do last and are easy to care for. I have Bavarian style caps that are three generations old and still look nice a little dusting and fine brushing and they look beautiful.
The condition of the felt really is amazing in comparison to the other materials.
Felt hats really do last and are easy to care for. I have Bavarian style caps that are three generations old and still look nice a little dusting and fine brushing and they look beautiful.