SkipperJohn said:These helmets are discussed on page 92 of Johansson's book Pickelhauben and on page 74 of Kube's book Militaria.
The examples that I have seen and read about have pressed rivets for the spike base as well as pressed shell rivets. Your spike base looks 100% authentic for this type of helmet even though it is attached with screw fasteners. I cannot remember if the spike was removable or not on the ones I've seen. Is this spike removable?
These helmets were made of thinner metal than a standard M15 Kurassier and it seems that most were painted an olive green color.
The Kokarden on this helmet are not proper, in my opinion, because they are the officer "twin ring" type. This helmet should have enlisted Kokarden, either 63mm or 48mm.
Here is another example:
http://griffinmilitaria.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=14430&cat=45&page=32&search=&since=0&status=&title=
Congratulations on a rare and unusual helmet. Excellent find.
John :bravo:
J.LeBrasseur said:Larry is a good guy and honest dealer as well as a member of this forum!
I have never heard of or seen a JZP marked Kurassier either, but who knows...
James
brusik1 said:it may say something
Jäger-Regiment zu Pferde Nr. 8 from Wikipedia:
" the uniform:
The uniform was modeled after the style of the cuirassiers. The tunic was gray-green with Swedish serves. Collar, cuffs and lugs were light green, while the badge color was white. The buttons were white, boots and leather black. The officer's helmet, as in the case of the cuirassiers, but of blackened tin with dragoon eagle as ornament, border rails, scales, and lace were made of tombak. The team helmet corresponded to the helmet of the Dragoons. (Since not enough cuirassier helmets were available for the formation of regiments 8-13, the conversion was not until 1915.) Dragoon boots were worn. The epaulettes were provided with the regimental number. "
That's why I opened the topic here.SkipperJohn said:brusik1 said:it may say something
Jäger-Regiment zu Pferde Nr. 8 from Wikipedia:
" the uniform:
The uniform was modeled after the style of the cuirassiers. The tunic was gray-green with Swedish serves. Collar, cuffs and lugs were light green, while the badge color was white. The buttons were white, boots and leather black. The officer's helmet, as in the case of the cuirassiers, but of blackened tin with dragoon eagle as ornament, border rails, scales, and lace were made of tombak. The team helmet corresponded to the helmet of the Dragoons. (Since not enough cuirassier helmets were available for the formation of regiments 8-13, the conversion was not until 1915.) Dragoon boots were worn. The epaulettes were provided with the regimental number. "
WOW! I never knew or heard of this before.
So --- If I found a model 1915 Kurassier helmet with an 8 - 13 stamp, it would actually have belonged to a JzP regiment?
I may actually have a JzP helmet that I didn't know about.
Could this possibly explain the (apparently common) use of a regular spike on a Kurassier helmet?
Did the Kurassier helmets ever have the dragoon eagle for JzP or was it always the Kurassier line eagle?
I have lots of questions now!
John