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Anybody else loves artilleriehauben?

Post by Pickelhaube » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:55 pm

For some reason i like artilleriehauben.

M1915 Prussian marked to FAR 8.

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M1895 Baden

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M1895 Würtemberg(fake chinstrap)

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M1895 Pruissian marked to FAR10

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Prussian one year volunteer

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Post by Khukri » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:15 pm

:thumb up: :thumb up: :thumb up: Indeed...(after 32 years in the Artillery) I love these! Looking for a Sachsen and a Württemberger !
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Post by KAGGR#1 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:05 pm

A year ago I bought a Prussian e m pre war helmet marked
to F A R 8 . Odd thing is that it started out to be issued as
a Baden artillery regiment , but a Baden plate was
never placed on it .

I am trying to put together a non-helmet musician
display for F A R 10 Hannover .
and also just started F A R 3 musician display

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Post by pickelhauben » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:43 am

Nice collection

I love them as well.

I am running out of display area I have room for about 5-10 more and I will not have anymore room .

I would like to get one more Meck and the room that I have left I would like to fill with either Arties or Wurts.

I just got in a Wurt 91 private purchase arty basket case and have a 91 Prussian arty with original chinscales on it's way !!

I am a little lazy tonight so I will reuse some pics.
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The early Grenadier is a total reconstruction that needs more work.

The Hess 1870 was the 3rd piece that I added to my collection.
The Meck has a repro c/s
The Baden is a high ranking NCO or OYV
The Saxon is a OYV with repro scales
Not pictured is my m-15 Prussian that is a HUGE size ( all original )




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Post by poniatowski » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:51 pm

Khukri wrote::thumb up: :thumb up: :thumb up: Indeed...(after 32 years in the Artillery) I love these! Looking for a Sachsen and a Württemberger !
Francis
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I was a red-leg as well on M109 series. I like them as well, but only have three or four.

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Post by SkipperJohn » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:20 pm

poniatowski wrote:
Khukri wrote::thumb up: :thumb up: :thumb up: Indeed...(after 32 years in the Artillery) I love these! Looking for a Sachsen and a Württemberger !
Francis
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I was a red-leg as well on M109 series. I like them as well, but only have three or four.

:D Ron
Me too, except we were called "Cannon Cockers", on M101A1 and M114 A1 series. I have five artillery Haubes, so I am a fan.

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Post by edwin » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:11 am

Very nice helmets!

Thanks for sharing :D

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Post by Leone » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:23 am

Mine. 8)
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Post by Pickelhaube » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:42 am

I'm drooling over my keyboard when i see the helmets that Pickelhauben and Leone have posted. I only have 5 artilleriehauben, 6 if i count my Bayern also, but that one doesnt has a balltop.

A few weeks ago i was offered 3 different felt artilleriehauben, but since the liners of the helmets were missing or damaged, i had to say no...

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Post by poniatowski » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:50 am

SkipperJohn wrote:
poniatowski wrote:
Khukri wrote::thumb up: :thumb up: :thumb up: Indeed...(after 32 years in the Artillery) I love these! Looking for a Sachsen and a Württemberger !
Francis
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I was a red-leg as well on M109 series. I like them as well, but only have three or four.

:D Ron
Me too, except we were called "Cannon Cockers", on M101A1 and M114 A1 series. I have five artillery Haubes, so I am a fan.

John :thumb up:
Yup, so did we. I was trying to be polite to those who might not like to be referred to as Cockers or Gun Bunnies or Ammo Humpers (what I called my ammo wagon crew). :wink: However, I enjoyed being a Tread Head on artillery, tanks, APC's, cargo carriers or what have you. I'll tell you this much, the A6 is a wonderful piece of technology, but I'd rather be on an older A1 or A2... More to do, more quiet during missions, more fun. However, the guys needing support are much happier with the Paladin. Those days are long gone now for me.

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Re: Anybody else loves artilleriehauben?

Post by pickelhauben » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:21 am

Pickelhaube wrote:I'm drooling over my keyboard when i see the helmets that Pickelhauben and Leone have posted. I only have 5 artilleriehauben, 6 if i count my Bayern also, but that one doesnt has a balltop.

A few weeks ago i was offered 3 different felt artilleriehauben, but since the liners of the helmets were missing or damaged, i had to say no...

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Thanks Pickelhaube ,

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Post by spikeymikey » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:51 pm

Here's my collection of Artillery helmet - anyone wanna sell me a chinstrap for this?

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Post by spikeymikey » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:54 pm

I used to own this one:

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Post by Pickelhaube » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:16 pm

Here's my bavarian artilleriehaube.

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Re: Anybody else loves artilleriehauben?

Post by SkipperJohn » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:13 pm

I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but both of the Bavarian Pickelhaubes pictured above appear to have flat chin scales. I could be way off base here but it is my understanding that the Bavarian artillery always had curved chin scales. The infantry had flat chin scales until 20 February 1914 when all Bavarian chin scales went to curved. Here is my infantry reserve officer showing flat chin scales:

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Curved chin scales were used by the cavalry, artillery and train and continued in use until the demise of the Pickelhaube. Here is my Bavarian artillery:

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Now, to be completely honest, this Bavarian helmet with curved chin scales is not marked, so it could have been used by the Schwere-Reiter, Chevaulegers, Artillery, or Train. If it was manufactured after 20 February 1914, but before 31 March 1916, this helmet could have even been infantry. After 31 March 1916 the Bavarian artillery adopted the Kugel ball so a later production artillery helmet would have incorporated this Kugel.

Am I completely wrong about this? Is it possible that I just can't see the curve in the chin scales looking at the photos?

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Post by Khukri » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:22 am

Bavarian Fußartillerie Regimenter had flat chinscales as well. Are these helmets marked with Regts Numbers ?
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Post by Pickelhaube » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:35 am

My Bavarian artilleriehaube has a faint regimentalstamp, i can read the "FAR", but not the number.

My understanding is that bavarian artilleriehauben had flatt chinscales while the curved chinscales were for cavaleryhauben. But it wouldn't surprise me that some artilleriehauben had curved chinscales.


This helmet is marked to the 3rd cheveaux légers.
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Post by Khukri » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:28 am

Jeremy,

Just checked THE referencebook: "Die Deutsche Artillerie;1871 bis 1914"-Ulrich Herr and Jens Nguyen.
I will not copy-paste: So: please do check out pages 344-359 for Bayerische FAR Lederhelme (convex scales) and the pages 486-471 for Bayerische Fußartillerie Lederhelme (Flat scales)

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Post by Khukri » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:34 am

:eek: Aaaarghhh...Spikey: should you plan to get rid of your fine Sachsen Kugelhelm...just let me know.
Thank you !
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Post by Tony without Kaiser » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:05 pm

I am fond of Artillerie as well.

Model 1895 Baden Feldartillerie (Field Artillery) Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1886/1896 Bayern (Bavaria) Feldartillerie (Field Artillery) Regt 7 Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1899/1914 Bayern (Bavaria) Feldartillerie (Field Artillery) Regt Officer's Pickelhaube

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Model 1871 Preußen Fußartillery Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1895 Preußen Garde Fußartillery Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1915 Preußen Friedens-Uniform Feldartillerie Regt 34 Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1871 Preußen Feldartillerie Regt Senior NCO Eigetumsstück Pickelhaube

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Model 1871/1899 Preußen Feldartillerie Officer's Pickelhaube

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Model 1891 Preußen Fußartillery Regt 8 Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1894 Sachsen (Saxon) Feldartillerie Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1894 Württembergisches Feldartillerie Mannschaften Eigetumsstück (privately purchased) Pickelhaube

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Ersatz Preußen Rolled-Edge Artillerie J. Bambus & Co. Filzhelm (felt helmet)

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Ersatz Model 1915 Preußen Feldartillerie Felt Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1915 Preußen Feldartillerie Regt 44 Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Model 1915 Hessen Feldartillerie Regt 25 Mannschaften Pickelhaube

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Post by spikeymikey » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:19 pm

Khukri wrote::eek: Aaaarghhh...Spikey: should you plan to get rid of your fine Sachsen Kugelhelm...just let me know.
Thank you !
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It's already gone I'm afraid to say, I do miss it but it went to a great mate of mine so it's in very good hands! :D

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Post by SkipperJohn » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:56 pm

Khukri wrote:Jeremy,

Just checked THE referencebook: "Die Deutsche Artillerie;1871 bis 1914"-Ulrich Herr and Jens Nguyen.
I will not copy-paste: So: please do check out pages 344-359 for Bayerische FAR Lederhelme (convex scales) and the pages 486-471 for Bayerische Fußartillerie Lederhelme (Flat scales)

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Very interesting. So the Bavarian artillery did the same thing the Prussian artillery did, curved chin scales for field artillery and flat for foot artillery.

This is my Prussian Fussartillerie. It is marked to "Artillerie Offizier Jos Kuiffer", a Fahnrich:

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Post by spikeymikey » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:04 am

Looking back on my post I think I showed many views of the same helmet to give the impression of a large collection. Sorry about that! :P

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Post by Pickelhaube » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:47 pm

Wow, there are many interesting helmets shown in this thread.

I almost got a heartattack when i saw tony's kugelhelmets.

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Post by b.loree » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:58 pm

Ok, Francis alerted me to creating a new Kugel Helme/Artillerie section on the forum here a couple of days ago and now you guys have gone way beyond and I can not switch these posts to the new section. So that section will be created in a couple of days so if you can post again there? Sorry, B
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Post by Khukri » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:38 am

:thumb up:
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Post by pickelhauben » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:05 am

Leone wrote:Mine. 8)
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Nice line up !!

Tony With out Kaiser your collection is not slacking either !!!

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Post by dick roback » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:37 pm

Fantastic display of Artilleries!!! Tony; love the Garde FsAR and the Sachsen FAR helmet!!! Dick

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Post by Leone » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:23 am

Last find. After cleaning, can see more than 80% gilding on spike and nice gilded plate.
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