Generaloberst mit dem Rang eines General-Feldmarschalls

[AlexSteve]

I have a copy of the book Steve mentions; “Mythos Marschallstab”. It makes no mention of any of the Generaloberst (mdReGFM) as having been awrded a marshals’ baton and does not list any. Interestingly a baton for Kaiser Wilhelm I is not listed either.

Regards
Glenn

Taking this opportunity. Is it possible to know, how many marshal's batons belonged to Count Moltke the Elder, according to information from this book?

Regards, Alexander.

 

[JzPf]

As far as I know, Hindenburg's marshal's baton was sold at auction a few years ago.

Regards, Alexander.

It did, if I remember it went for €500,000.

 

[Glennj]

Taking this opportunity. Is it possible to know, how many marshal's batons belonged to Count Moltke the Elder, according to information from this book?

Hello Alexander; three

his original baton, presented on the day of his promotion (16 June 1871)

A "Jubilee" baton presented to him by Kaiser Wilhelm II on his 90th birthday (26 October 1890)

A "Command" baton presented to him by the city of Köln also on the occasion of his 90th birthday.

Regards
Glenn

 

[AlexSteve]

Hello Alexander; three

his original baton, presented on the day of his promotion (16 June 1871)

A "Jubilee" baton presented to him by Kaiser Wilhelm II on his 90th birthday (26 October 1890)

A "Command" baton presented to him by the city of Köln also on the occasion of his 90th birthday.

Regards
Glenn

Thank You very much for the great information!
Thus it turns out that Moltke's third marshal's baton is on display at The State Historical Museum.
With the date 10/26/1890 on the bottom part and with the coat of arms of the city of Cologne.
Interesting where did the other two go?...

Regards, Alexander.

 

[KAGGR#1]

Thank You very much for the great information!
Thus it turns out that Moltke's third marshal's baton is on display at The State Historical Museum.
With the date 10/26/1890 on the bottom part and with the coat of arms of the city of Cologne.
Interesting where did the other two go?...

Regards, Alexander.

Great photos
Thanks for the post
Steve

 

[Glennj]

This one I cannot explain! From the Royal collection, a fine portrait of Generalfeldmarschall Prinz Friedrich Karl von Preußen. He is depicted with two stars in the normal configuration plus marshals' batons. A mistake on the part of the artist or perhaps a quirk of the Prince?

Regards
Glenn

 

[Jvpi]

This one I cannot explain! From the Royal collection, a fine portrait of Generalfeldmarschall Prinz Friedrich Karl von Preußen. He is depicted with two stars in the normal configuration plus marshals' batons. A mistake on the part of the artist or perhaps a quirk of the Prince?

Regards
Glenn

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If I'm not wrong this means he was breveted to Generalfeldmarschall. So the crossed batons with two rank stars. However not really matching to his career?

 

[Glennj]

Ah, thats the problem with this picture; Prinz Friedrich Karl was not a brevet Generalfeldmarschall but was promoted from General der Kavallerie to the substantive rank of Generalfeldmarschall. Secondly, the brevet field marshal wore the rank stars horizontally, i.e. either side of the batons and not above and below.

Regards
Glenn

 

[Glennj]

Here is char. Generalfelmarschall Karl von Steinmetz. This photograph shows the correct placement of the rank stars of a brevet field marshal.

Regards
Glenn

 

[kuerassier]

A very interesting topic that is currently occupying my mind. A few days ago I got these Epaulettes. Generaloberst mit dem Rang als Generalfeldmarschall, Gardekürassier-Regiment. Two possible owners, Kaiser Wilhelm I. or Prinz August von Württemberg.
Last year I also got a shoulderboard. Generaloberst mit dem Rang als Generalfeldmarschall 1. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß with 4 stars. Also two possible. Friedrich II. von Baden or Prinz Heinrich von Preußen.

 

[KAGGR#1]

A very interesting topic that is currently occupying my mind. A few days ago I got these Epaulettes. Generaloberst mit dem Rang als Generalfeldmarschall, Gardekürassier-Regiment. Two possible owners, Kaiser Wilhelm I. or Prinz August von Württemberg.
Last year I also got a shoulderboard. Generaloberst mit dem Rang als Generalfeldmarschall 1. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß with 4 stars. Also two possible. Friedrich II. von Baden or Prinz Heinrich von Preußen.

Both very nice and very rare
Here is my single of Kaiser Wilhelm II
for the 1 Garde Regt zu Fuss
Steve

 

[kuerassier]

They were in the same auction as my Gardekürassier-Epaulettes. Andreas Thies.

 

[KAGGR#1]

They were in the same auction as my Gardekürassier-Epaulettes. Andreas Thies.

The Baden L G R 109 pair sold for 9,550 + commission
Steve

 

[Kaisersammler]

Here is the shoulder piece of my Prussian general's uniform. Note also the large and flat stars.