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Four of the best

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Helmet for a Lieutenant General, Mecklenburg

Post by newbe » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:30 am

Helmet for a Lieutenant General, Mecklenburg
Owner and wearer Carrier Lieutenant General Grand Duke Paul Frederick of Mecklenburg. A la suite in the Dragoon Regiment No.17 in Ludwigslust. 1897-1898.
A gilt sun helmet with silver star and multi-part, nice star of the Wendish Crown. White, relatively clean lining and white leather sweatband. Silver crown with letters of the duke.
The Grand Duke was of course a la suite as the helmet of the regiment with General emblem. (contrary to the rest of the generals after 1897 who wore the helmet in silver color).

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Re: Four of the best

Post by Bungo » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:19 am

Wow. Nice collection there.

Do please tell us about the Baden helmet!

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Re: Four of the best

Post by Westfront » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:03 am

Wow beautiful helmets :bravo: more pictures please :D.

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Re: Four of the best

Post by edwin » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:41 am

A nice set of stunning helmets, congrats!

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Re: Four of the best

Post by badener » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:51 am

Outstanding! =D>
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Re: Four of the best

Post by Larmo » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:29 am

Wow, now that's a Christmas Eve treat, beautiful :thumb up:

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Re: Four of the best

Post by Arran » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:55 pm

Gorgeous helmets! Why is the second one not in the typical General's configuration with cruciform spike base and square visor?
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Re: Four of the best

Post by verdun16 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:40 pm

Never seen all togheter!!
all the best
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Re: Four of the best

Post by jimturinetti » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:34 pm

That is a stunning collection! Can you provide close up photos of the other three? I have only read about two of these (# 2 & #4) but haven't seen them up close.
That was a terrific Christmas present for all of us.
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Re: Four of the best

Post by b.loree » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:30 am

Excellent, an amazing grouping! Your name here on the forum "newbe" is misleading you obviously have been collecting for some time to own 4 exceedingly rare helmets as those. I am also hoping for some additional photos.
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Re: Four of the best

Post by Adler » Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:53 am

Indeed four of the best!

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Re: Four of the best

Post by joerookery » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:55 am

If I am correct this special treat comes from a massive collection in Australia put together by a wonderful and modest man. :bravo:
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Re: Four of the best

Post by jimturinetti » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:10 pm

Thank you for posting the additional photos. The helmets are truly special.
If you would like to correspond outside the forum, I would welcome an email from you. I'd love to discuss our helmets further. I have all of the items that you have posted with the exception of the beautiful Saxe-Weimar Flugel Adjutant.
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Re: Four of the best

Post by b.loree » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:35 pm

The brass star on the Mecklenberg helme is just massive and note also the high fashion spikes (my terminology) on it and the Saxe Weimar helme. The Baden 109 is much shorter.
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Re: Four of the best

Post by Arran » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:05 pm

I would really like to know more about the Saxe-Weimar helmet. On first glance, it appears to be a Prussian Guard officer's pickelhaube that has had the Black Eagle Order replaced by the White Falcon Order (note the rounded visor, round spike base, and "Koenig" vs. "Fuerst" motto). Of course I'm not familiar with every variation, so if this helmet does in fact "make sense" I'd love to know...
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Re: Four of the best

Post by poniatowski » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:20 pm

My eyes are popping! VERY Nice indeed! Thanks for posting the photos and making my day.

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I really do need to know more about this....

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Re: Four of the best

Post by Glennj » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:13 pm

The officers' Bekleidungsvorschrift of 1911 does not specifically mention the uniforms of the Flügeladjutanten of the Bundesfürsten but both Oberstleutnant Fiebig in a 1940 article in the Zeitschrift für Heereskunde and the Knötel/Pietsch/Collas "Das Deutsche Heer" describe the helmet of the Sachsen-Weimar Flügeladjutant as having a square peak and a cruciform spike base?

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Re: Four of the best

Post by Glennj » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:07 am

Interestingly, this unnamed Hauptmann who appears on page 45 of "Deutsche Offiziershelme 1870-1918" Band I, is miscaptioned as a Sachsen-Weimar Flügeladjutant. He is in fact Hauptmann Kurt v. Gillhausen, Flügeladjutant to the Herzog von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha. An easy mistake to make as only the centre decoration on the eagle was different. Note the square peak.

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Re: Four of the best

Post by Arran » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:57 pm

I would love for the original poster to come back and discuss helmet number two with us!
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