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Post by Peter_Suciu » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:35 am

I meant to post these a while ago. My family of Adrian helmets:

French Model 1915 “Adrian” Steel Helmet for Infantry
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French Model 1915 “Adrian” Steel Helmet for Engineer
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French Model 1915 Veteran Plate
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Belgian M15 Steel Helmet
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Romanian Model 1915 Steel Helmet
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Post by zipperheads9 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:13 am

I like the soviet, understated star :)
very nice collection Peter.
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Post by Gustaf » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:45 am

Hey Peter,
Thanks for sharing your fine collection of helmets, these are all getting harder to come by, not because they are not out there, but because one must hold them in their hand and be very knowledgeble about them or they will own a copy.
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PS, it is too bad that we do not know anyone who is a writer who could use your collectin to write a very good refferance book on world helmets. he he
OK, they are dolls, but they have kung fu grip! and weapons.

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Post by Peter_Suciu » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:49 pm

Gustaf wrote: PS, it is too bad that we do not know anyone who is a writer who could use your collectin to write a very good refferance book on world helmets. he he
I've tried to pitch such a book. It is depressing that I can't get any interest! :x

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Post by Gustaf » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:12 pm

Peter_Suciu wrote:
Gustaf wrote: PS, it is too bad that we do not know anyone who is a writer who could use your collectin to write a very good refferance book on world helmets. he he
I've tried to pitch such a book. It is depressing that I can't get any interest! :x
Yes, I know,
There are only about two dozen helmet freeks in the whole world, and most of them are too cheap to cough up a "C" note for a good book.
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OK, they are dolls, but they have kung fu grip! and weapons.

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Post by zipperheads9 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:15 pm

A C note is hard to spend on a book , when it get me another helmet. But know i can buy it if it is for sale in US funds :D
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Post by Gustaf » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:55 am

Yeah sure Mark,
Make fun of our ugly money, I would never make fun of your money (OK I have in the past, but I will not in the future, not because I am nice, but because it is pretty and it is doubtful that it will ever be lower that the ugly green paper we have here)
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Post by aterrasse » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:03 pm

Some beautiful pieces here Peter. I also collect French stell helmets and will post some pics once I have worked out how to post pictures!!

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Post by Robert » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:49 pm

BTW I found a nice reference site for steel helmets a while ago. I use it for looking up less known models, e.g. from eastern europe.

Its Spanish. Just select a county in the footer, click "VER FICHA" beside one of the helmet models and run the text through Babel Fish or whatever.

For example, they have a nice picture of finnish soldiers with ear-cut M18 helmets:
http://www.cascoscoleccion.com/finland/finextr.htm

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Post by monfort » Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:57 pm

Hi Peter,

Nice helmets !

So you like Adrians....????

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Post by flasheart » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:09 pm

Peter, Great helmets! I also like the Adrians, so many varieties.

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Oh sure Flas

Post by zipperheads9 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:16 pm

Sure flash flaunt all the Slouch Hats.
Nice collections.
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Greek Adrian

Post by makedon » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:55 am

Hello!
here is a greek Adrian helmet fro my collection. One of the rarest adrians.
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Post by stuka f » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:48 pm

Nice helmet!
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Post by stuka f » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:00 pm

My Belgian Adrian.
Found at a house clearence
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And my Frech one
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And a other French Adrian! I know it is the wrong periode , but I couldn't resist showing a other very scarce Adrian;Vichy Milice.
If inapropriate feel free to remove!
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Post by RON » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:41 pm

Great photos guys! The Vichy helmet included; it is after all part of the Adrian family history and I don't see anything inappropriate with it... we're all mature collectors here :)

All I have is an M26 French Inf. Adrian which seems to have had a post-war liner replacement due to leather color? :-k
(at one point, I had to replace the broken front liner rivets with screws :oops: )
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Post by RON » Mon May 13, 2013 3:40 pm

Since it was quite cheap, I recently bought a nice WW2 near-mint French C-38 Gas Mask to pair with my lonely Adrian:

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Post by monfort » Mon May 13, 2013 4:41 pm

Hi

I am not specialist in Gasmak but this one looks like a French "ANP 1951" ??

About Adrian, have a look here: http://www.terraculturae.com/pages/arme ... 15-mle-15/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by RON » Tue May 14, 2013 5:24 am

Salut Eric,
Il s'agit bel et bien d'un masque à gaz de la Seconde Guerre.
This is a C-38 with numerous inspection dates beginning in "15 avril 1941" until "13 oct. 1964". Here's more closeups:
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Post by Markgraf » Thu May 23, 2013 3:05 am

A Romanian Adrian

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Post by stuka f » Thu May 23, 2013 5:58 am

Very nice!
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Post by stuka f » Thu May 23, 2013 6:01 am

And a toy Adrian (Belgian police helmet)
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Post by stuka f » Fri May 31, 2013 5:45 am

Just got thise one in!

A private purchase M15 adrian high quality Belgian officers helmet.

A rather hard to find helmet.
Probably a gendarme helmet because of his black color.
Nearly weight over the 300gr, with a fine leather liner and a "fantasy" chinstrap (very commoun with officers!)
Made of alu by Fonson Brussels.
It seems even named.

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Post by chinstrap » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:58 pm

All very nice! I like Adrians, but they've always struck me (maybe wrongly) as too thin and 'tinny' to be effective against shrapnel etc. Does anybody know how they compared with the German stahlhelm or the Brodie, in terms of protection afforded?

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Post by Peter_Suciu » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:10 pm

chinstrap wrote:Does anybody know how they compared with the German stahlhelm or the Brodie, in terms of protection afforded?
These were lighter steel but were designed for low velocity impacts such as artillery - as opposed to high velocity impacts such as those from bullets. In many ways I think the Adrian is actually a defensive helmet.

The British MkI is also a defensive helmet in this regard. I should also add that not all British helmets should be called "Brodies" as the Brodie was the original helmet that led to the development of the MkI.

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Post by Markgraf » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:39 am

A French Infantry M 1915 Ardian with some traces of "high velocity impacts".

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Post by RON » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:02 am

Impressive!
You can clearly tell that the bullet which came in from the upper left side exited from the lower right which means it was shot from higher grounds or... an airplane? :-"
As for the other 2 large impacts on the upper right side; they could be shrapnel 'wounds'...
My CSI assessment :D
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Post by Markgraf » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:07 am

The angle of the shot is approximately 15°, so I think the bullet came from a higher place more than from an airplane.

The helmet most probably is a war trophy, and the AH troops fought against French in the mountain area of Italy.

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Post by Gustaf » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:25 pm

Markgraf wrote:The angle of the shot is approximately 15°, so I think the bullet came from a higher place more than from an airplane.

The helmet most probably is a war trophy, and the AH troops fought against French in the mountain area of Italy.
The high angle of the shot could also mean that the wearer had his head tipped forward.
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Post by stuka f » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:39 am

Here is a lucky Belgian, I recently got in.
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Post by Bungo » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:20 am

Wow, Flashheart, those are some impressive slouch hats you'v got there...

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Post by stuka f » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:22 am

Can't wait to get thise Roumanian example, so I am showing the sellers pic's for the momment!
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Post by Markgraf » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:11 am

A rare version, helmet of the austrian Ostmärkische Sturmscharen.

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Ostmärkische Sturmscharen was a political paramilitary force founded on December 7, 1930 in Innsbruck, Austria, recruited from the Katholische Jugend (Catholic Youth), later from journeymen and teacher organisations, forming an opposition to the Heimwehr. Kurt Schuschnigg was its "Reichsführer". The Ostmärkische Sturmscharen spread over the entire Austrian territory in 1933, comprising 15,000 members according to their own figures, but never became very popular. In Lower Austria they incorporated the "Lower Austrian Heimwehr" and were supported by the Bauernbund (Austrian Farmers' Federation). The chairman of the Bauernbund Leopold Figl was their "Landesführer". The Ostmärkische Sturmscharen declared themselves a cultural organisation on April 11, 1936, hence the dissolution of all defence forces in October 1936 was for them merely a formality. (wiki)

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Post by Maple Creek » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:35 pm

Does anybody know who posted these photos of this rare Greek M15 and how to get in touch with him?

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Maple Creek wrote:Does anybody know who posted these photos of this rare Greek M15 and how to get in touch with him?

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makedon wrote:Hello!
here is a greek Adrian helmet fro my collection. One of the rarest adrians.
Hey Mark, I can't help you much! All I can say is that I remember a discussion concerning a Greek M15 offered for sale, on a different forum.
Just don't know wich forum it could have been.....I'll try to find it.
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What is on the ceiling???????? :D :D
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Post by joerookery » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:26 am

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