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Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by b.loree » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:44 pm

Another officer helmet has arrived, both visors to be restitched. This helmet is from a rare Infantry Regt and also named in a unique way which I have never seen before.
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We do find owners names in helmets but they are always penciled in or written in ink, this one is ink stamped using the official Regt ink stamp.
Kratzsch Leutnant u. Kompt. Landst.-Inf.-Reg. No. 33 7. Kompagnie. So, we have the helmet of Lt. Kratzsch who was the Kompanie Commander of the 7th Kompagnie of the 33 Landsturm Infanterie Regt. It does not get much clearer than that and one of our members should be able to provide information.
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The visor and trim here is more diagonal, a Saxe characteristic distinct from the rounded Prussian officer helmets.
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The thread on both visors was so rotten that it did not need to have to be cut with an exacto blade. Here we see the rear spine and how it is fastened to the shell and visor. No prongs were broken in the process and the spine came off easily. The spine must be removed as you can not clean out old thread or restitch with it still in place. :thumbsdown:
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Both visors and small parts are always placed in a plastic container, if lost, these parts are very hard to replace. The first visor trim button to be taken off, in this case the "left" (when wearing helmet) was marked with an "L" so that each is returned to their original location on the helmet. They often have a slightly different shape due to how they were put on originally. Next step....clean out all the old thread in the stitch holes.
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Indiana

Post by ww1czechlegion » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:44 am

Looks great Brian, many thanks for doing this project and posting the photos! =D>

My very novice research revealed that the 33rd Landsturm Infantry Reg't was attached to the 95th Infantry Reg't, which would be a ?Brother (don't know if that is the correct term to use) Regiment to the 94th Reg't. I was just now trying to locate the page on the internet, and can't seem to find it again.

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Indiana

Post by J.LeBrasseur » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:30 am

Alan- great helmet, when did you move to Indiana... Just kidding.

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Indiana

Post by Glennj » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:55 am

Brian,

Landsturm-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 33 was formed in late July 1916 under the auspices of the IV. Army Corps Home Command. It served exclusively on the Eastern front, initially in 3. Reserve-Division until 13 March 17, the 46. Landwehr-Division until 30 April 1918 and finally 14. Landwehr-Division. Kratztsch is not a particularly common name and my best guess is that he was the Leutnant der Reserve Kratzsch commissioned into Landwehr-Infanterie-Bataillon II Aschersleben on 16 November 1915.

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Indiana

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:33 pm

What front plate does the helmet have ?
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Indiana

Post by ww1czechlegion » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:20 pm

Thanks for the fantastic info Glenn, I appreciate it! :thumb up: :bravo:

Thanks James & Steve for your comments about my helmet, I appreciate it! :thumb up:

The front plate is a 94th Reg't Reservist. It has the Saxe-Weimar officer kokarde.

I'll post pics of what it looked like from Randy & Remy. I believe that Remy took these photos, but am not certain.

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Indiana

Post by ww1czechlegion » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:27 pm

Here's a full view of the liner, and a couple more views:
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by Sandmann » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:29 am

Look really great :bravo:
Thank you for sharing
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by KAGGR#1 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:49 pm

Alan ;
Super ! very good find and purchase .I wonder if that could have been
a Walt Hartmann helmet ? Randy has purchased some of Walt's helmets .
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by kaiser » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:51 pm

In the hands of brian it will be a beauty when he is finished with it
He is a great teatcher on restoring helmets even on a distance from america to belgium
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by SkipperJohn » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:56 pm

I am anxious to see the finished product.
How will you repair the gaping hole on the right side?

John :(

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by b.loree » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:53 pm

John, there is no gaping hole in the helmet...that's just the loose rear visor popped away from the shell. The camera angle is deceiving.
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by b.loree » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:21 pm

First, my apologies to Alan for screwing up his State location in the title, my knowledge of US Post nomenclature let me down. :( . It was a beautiful day in the neighbourhood today.....
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Stichin Haube Gulf side! :D The shades are for effect, I can't stitch with sunglasses or any other type of glasses on.
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This is my work area, typical for an officer helmet, this one is marked size 57 1/2 cm. You have to be very careful sticking your hands in and out of this space as you can damage the liner stitching.
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You always line up the spine lines and work out from the middle on a rear visor.
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by b.loree » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:51 pm

We began this post showing the unique way that this helmet was "named". Here is another rare example of "naming", clearly printed in ink by Lt. Junemann 2. Komp J.R. 160. Examples of easy to read officer names are rare, most times they are scrawled in pencil or ink on the inside of the shell, sometimes on a glued label.
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I have Junemann's haube with me as I need to restitch the front visor.
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A comparison shot of the Prussian style officer visor (Junemann's top) with the Saxe visor of Lt. Kratzsch. The difference is obvious! Visor trim must always be removed because there is always stitching underneath at the corners. Last...if the stitch holes are cleared properly daylight shines through.
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Front visor pinned and ready for stitching tomorrow.
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You know things are right when pieces lineup like they were originally. I have never seen extra holes like this in an officer helmet, there are 2 extras on the opposite side....I have no explanation. Was the helme reworked or is this a simple manufacturing error??
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by SkipperJohn » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:05 pm

b.loree wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:53 pm
John, there is no gaping hole in the helmet...that's just the loose rear visor popped away from the shell. The camera angle is deceiving.
Sorry. I was talking about the spot by the Kokarde mounting hole. I see now that it is just something stuck to the helmet.
Looking good so far. You are a Master!

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by Jaap Verduijn » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:07 am

Hi Brian! I think the name is Tünemann, with a T. Those German letters always were a bit of a bother, especially in the past, but also to a certain extend in the present. Doing things differently, that's what Germans like :D

I've said it before, I'm saying it now, and I will undoubtedly say it again: I enjoy your restoration posts and pictures very much! Please keep up the good work :thumb up: !
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by Sandmann » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:58 pm

Jaap Verduijn wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:07 am
Hi Brian! I think the name is Tünemann, with a T. Those German letters always were a bit of a bother, especially in the past, but also to a certain extend in the present. Doing things differently, that's what Germans like :D

I've said it before, I'm saying it now, and I will undoubtedly say it again: I enjoy your restoration posts and pictures very much! Please keep up the good work :thumb up: !
I agree to your 2nd statement but I disagree to your 1st. I‘m with Brian and think also that it‘s a „J“ :o
A „T“ would not have the bow at the base and the horizontal line at the half height of the letter. For me it looks like an old fashioned „J“ like here:
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by b.loree » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:18 pm

Thanks John, Jaap and Sandy, I just hope some member in Europe can track J/Tunemann down. Good to hear everyone is still enjoying these restoration posts. Few collectors get to see/handle so many of these helmets as I do let alone, take them apart, I am very lucky! John, those marks around the chin scale holes are bits of cardboard torn off the officer kokarden. Officer kokarden have a black cardboard backing and this often sticks to the shell. Many times, I have to pry them off with a knife. Sometimes I even have to replace the backing with new cardboard.
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by b.loree » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:02 pm

Helmet was finished today:
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Fittings have much of their original mercury gilding left.
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I will be returning the helmet to Alan at the SOS in Louisville.
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by Jaap Verduijn » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:14 am

Hi Sandy! Yes, it's very well possible that it's "Jünemann" after all! I think you're right :thumb up:
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by ww1czechlegion » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:19 pm

Hi Brian,

That looks fantastic, many thanks for doing such superb work! =D> \:D/ :bravo:

Yes, unfortunately the cardboard backing from both of the Officer Kokarden stuck a bit to the sides of the helmet when I took it apart prior to mailing it to Brian.

Not sure why there are two extra stitch holes on both sides of the visor. As Brian said, he's never seen this before, and I have never seen this before as well. I didn't notice it until after I took the chinscales and other fittings off the helmet. It looks to me like that "Saxon somewhat square cut style" visor had been on there "forever" with matching oxidation patina to it when compared to the back visor, and the rest of the exterior helmet shell.

I also didn't realize that the front visor needed a re-stitching until I took the chinscales off as well just before I mailed it to Brian. That was a bad surprise. (both for myself, and for Brian as well). Many thanks again for getting this added work done Brian! :bravo:

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by aicusv » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Were there threads in the extra holes? If so it maybe that the maker just started and ended the stitching sooner and later. This could be do to the shape of the visor, the stitching jig maybe set up for the other shape visor and they used it for Saxon's as well. Just a thought.
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by Glennj » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:26 am

Brian,

it is Jünemann. Leutnant der Reserve Jünemann, commissioned as such on 25 January 1915. He survived the war.

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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by b.loree » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:43 am

Thanks very much Glenn! No extra threads in those holes. Don't forget the trim has to go on over the edge of the visor, any thread in those holes would prevent this. Stitching has to stop before the edge to allow the trim to slip over it. Junemann Leutnant de Reserve but his helmet wappen is regular line infantry officer. There will be a separate post on his helmet.
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Re: Named Officer Helmet From Iowa

Post by Jaap Verduijn » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:33 am

Good on yah, Glenn! :thumb up:
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