Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

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Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by Mike H » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:38 am

Gentlemen,

I can you please give me your opinions on this Pickelhaube?

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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by Mike H » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:41 am

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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by 911car » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:14 pm

Hi Mike,
Beautiful condition! This is no Dragoner helmet though, but for a Prussian administration officer, most likely a paymaster. It is missing a small eagle in silver colour between the legs of the eagle. Have you unscrewed the front plate?

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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by Mike H » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:38 am

No. It’s not in my possession.
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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by b.loree » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:15 am

The helmet has all the Dragoner characteristics Mike but the wappen is not correct for a Prussian Dragoon Officer. You can see Dragoner examples here on the forum in that section as well as the Wappen/Helmet plate area. This group of military bureaucrat helmets are called Beamte Pickelhaubes. These officials included such things as hospital and fortifications inspectors . There are silver fitting versions of these as well. As non fighting helmets, these usually are slightly cheaper than the regular military ones.
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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by Mike H » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:00 pm

This is terrific information and I am glad to be here on this forum. With the little experience I have, I do know that the Beamten items are considerably cheaper. I noted this immediately on Helmet Weitze's site. Some really attractive, minty vulkanfiber helmets there for Zoll-Beamten. But quite cheap. I am glad to know this and will inform the seller. I don't think he has any idea. By the way, he wants about $1,750 for it which now seems drastically overpriced. Here is a photo of a Zoll that Weitze has.

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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by Sandmann » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:34 am

That‘s true, the collectors mostly want military stuff. The Beamten or Polizei-Helmets don‘t reach these prices, even they look as good on the shelf as an military Helmet. But if you want to have it as an investment you should buy military.
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Re: Evaluation of a Prussian Dragoner

Post by aicusv » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:12 pm

This helmet belonged to a JAG (lawer) Officer.
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