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Post by ww1czechlegion » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:49 pm

Here's a preview photo of a selection of pickelhaubes from the Estate Collection of Virginia Publisher Robert H. Haskell III, which will be available on the upcoming March of 2014 James D. Julia, Inc. Auctionhouse. Did anyone on here personally know, or know of the late Robert H. Haskell III ?

If they're real, they look to be in very nice condition. I can only wonder what else he had in his collection of pickelhaubes that will be in this auction as well.

Here's a link to the auction page where I found this photo posted below:

http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/div_catalog_358_sh.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't subscribe to their catalogs, but I know that they handle militaria as well, and get some rare high-dollar U.S. Civil War items that go through their auction house.

James D. Julia, Inc. has claim to being the world's leading auctioneers of rare, high-grade, quality firearms. They had an over $18 Million Dollar sale this past October.

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Post by joerookery » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:17 pm

I am quite sure he called me once and we talked for about an hour. Sorry to hear he has passed. I think Randy pointed him into a lot of his helmets. He bought one from Kube that I could kick myself for. Never seen another one like it. Is the selection online anywhere? I would actually go for that one if it was available.
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Post by ww1czechlegion » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:03 pm

Hi Joe,

This next upcoming James D. Julia Inc. auction will not be held until March 10, 11, 12 of 2014.

Looks like their website states that the Haskell estate items will be auctioned in their 2nd Auction Session, held on March 11th. From what I can see, they are still accepting consignment items up until January 16th, 2014, for the 3-day auction session. Here's a link: http://jamesdjulia.com/firearms.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The catalog and any further previews of Haskell's pickelhaubes are not available for viewing from them as of my posting today, other than the 1-photo I have already posted. Sorry, I wish that I could tell you more. I'll have to keep watching their website. I hope that you can acquire the pickelhaube you mention in your posting. :)

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Post by J.LeBrasseur » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:07 pm

I have talked to auction house, many more helmets, but will not be any pictures until closer to the auction.

Some high end stuff, I am sure prices will be high plus buyers commission.

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Post by JohnM » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:45 pm

How unfortunate he passed away.

Here is a little on Mr. Haskell.

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Post by newbe » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:05 am

Time to splash the cash.

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Post by randy trawnik » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:43 pm

I just returned from Maine to help the James Julia Auction house identify and classify the Robert Haskell Collection. The auction house has also reached out to other top collectors for their input. There were about 150 helmets in the grouping. Bob Haskell was the consummate collector. He schooled himself in the knowledge of his collecting goals and sought out advice from the best known collectors and dealers in the field. Bob was very demanding and insisted on authenticity and the finest quality in everything he purchased. He dealt with well known European dealers such as Jan Kube, Hermann Historica, Helmut Weitze, and Sergio Semino. In the United States he worked with collector/dealers like Walter Hartmann, Steven Wolfe, James Julia, Mohawk Arms and with AGE of KINGS (Remy Schaal and I). He was constantly looking for rare and valuable helmets. He studied the collecting field and decided on a “target” for his next acquisition. In 2003 he sent out a message to his contact group that he was seeking the extremely rare Hessen 117th 9th Company officers helmet. He got two responses, one from Europe and the other from the US. He purchased both! He divided the collection into 2 parts. The rare officer helmets resided at his home while he sought out WWI era field helmets for his farm retreat. He enjoyed the history and the grandeur of the era prior to World War I.
Most of the helmets are absolutely wonderful and extremely rare. Most are in near mint condition. The collection includes Braunschweig Deaths Head and Running Horse officers. Generals from Hessen, Bavaria, Wurttemberg, Prussia, Saxony, Meckelnburg Schwerin and Prussia. Two (count them) Hessen 117 9C officers helmets. Hessen pre and post 1897 115 LGIR officer helmets. Mecklenburg Strelitz Fusiler and Artillery. Rare Duchy officers. Hannoverian and Nassau 87 & 88 officers. The list goes on and on. There are also a large number of WWI era field gray and ersatz helmets. These are of mixed condition and originality. There are also a couple of mixed up parts pieces that I identified as such.
I was able to examine each helmet individually but I was not allowed to take them apart. I feel that most of them were original and outstanding. The auction house will use my evaluation and that of their other evaluators to prepare the catalog. Once the catalog is out, I will gladly share my personal notes on any helmets of interest. I will be an auction to remember.

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Post by Maple Creek » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:34 pm

Hi Randy, Thanks for the synopsis. Any particularly great steel helmets in this lot? I might have to go to Maine to have a look-see.

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Post by b.loree » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:15 pm

Wow...reminds me of the Hogg collection that went up for sale in CA years ago Butterfield & Butterfield were the auctioneers. I bought 4 helmets and I know Randy got some also. There is going to be swarm of collectors going for this one.
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Post by b.loree » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:12 pm

Tony sent me a link to the new pics of this collection, some exceptionally rare pieces. I also heard that the helmes shown in grouped pictures of filz helmes and other M15's are going to be sold as "lots"??? Is this true? This does not make sense to me.
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Post by J.LeBrasseur » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:41 pm

yes, the lots part is true, weird but true

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Post by ww1czechlegion » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:32 pm

Online Catalog is Up & Running.

They switched the session the helmets are in to the 3rd Session, starting with # 3256

Here's a link to session #3: http://jamesdjulia.com/auction/gun-arch ... ?session=3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish everyone Good Luck in their pursuit!

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Post by ottodog8 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:24 am

Hmm, looks like I just might have to cross the water and take a rare trip to the mainland.
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Post by randy trawnik » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:55 pm

Hey Guys;
I just talked to Wes Dillon at the James Julia Auction house. He is sending a bunch of catalogs to me while I am at the SOS. They sell for $30 but he says it will be a reduced price for the show. I will let you know when I get them at the show. Anyone who wants one come by my table.
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Post by joerookery » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:27 am

Janice is long-range forecasts for the weather on Wednesday and Thursday is abysmal with snow coming on Friday. Why me Lord?
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Post by J.LeBrasseur » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:56 am

Oh you Southerners :D I just looked, it is one day of light snow showers..... You will survive

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Post by J.LeBrasseur » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:43 pm

randy trawnik wrote:Hey Guys;
I just talked to Wes Dillon at the James Julia Auction house. He is sending a bunch of catalogs to me while I am at the SOS. They sell for $30 but he says it will be a reduced price for the show. I will let you know when I get them at the show. Anyone who wants one come by my table.
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Post by -dick rowback » Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:03 pm

Hi Randy; Is there any chance in getting a copy if I'm not going to the SOS?? Would love to have a copy of session 3 , helmets and Dr. Sturgess pistols!! Cheers Dick

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Post by joerookery » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:12 pm

Dick are you in prison again? Is that why you can't go? Do we need to talk to someone? Maybe they can let you out for just the show?
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Post by -dick rowback » Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:58 pm

Yes Joe I'm in prison, financial prison [no extra cash]. I'm going to miss seeing you guyz James, Randy,Remy,Tony, you and the other guy from Idaho. Oh! that's you Gus! Hope everyone has a good, safe trip! Cheers Dick

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Post by joerookery » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:53 am

Just a little follow-up. Based on information I got from James. There was a really nasty blizzard but the auction house was so packed that it was standing room only. Allegedly the auctioneers have never seen anything like it. Prices were amazingly high and competition was very keen. I'm not sure who ended up with what if anything. I know James and I got one lot at the very end but it was not the one we were really going for. Considering there was a serious markup for a buyer's fee high prices is both good and bad news for the hobby. Maybe some others can share their experiences with this. Sure were a lot of helmets and a lot of interest.
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Post by 911car » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:34 am

I was there. In fact I am still there since my flight was cancelled because of the snowstorm...
If James was present I really regret that I ignored it, but we never met in person before. I did not find the room to be that crowded... there were many free seats even though people were standing behind; in fact the majority of the deals were made on the phone. I counted no less than 17 employees simultaneously on landline phones, not to mention cell phones! And yes, nothing was left behind. Prices were usually high, with a few rocketing at the end as usual. No cheap deal for sure.
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Post by J.LeBrasseur » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:41 am

I was not there, but on the phone the whole time with a very nice lady. She was the one giving me all the information on the storm, people there etc.

As Joe stated we got blown out on the 1 lot we really wanted, and ended up with a secondary lot at the end for our max price.

Now we will see how it all shakes out with fees, shipping etc.

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Post by Larmo » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:31 pm

Way to go guys :thumb up: Glad to know the pickelhaube-pals were represented there in person and on the phone....Bruno did you pick anything up?

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Post by poniatowski » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:29 pm

Sounds like it was quite the auction... especially if you were able to purchase! Great on-line catalog too. Was the paper one of just the helmet and are there any left? I hope to see photos of your winning lots.

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Post by 911car » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:53 am

Larmo wrote:Way to go guys :thumb up: Glad to know the pickelhaube-pals were represented there in person and on the phone....Bruno did you pick anything up?
Well, I had pre-selected 6-8 helmets on the pictures published online, but several of these did not meet my expectations when in my hands... Finally I found myself bidding on just one, which I won, despite a fierce fight as it seemed that the rest of the world was on the phone bidding against me..
The fact that many helmets came as lots did not make things easier. For instance there was a lovely one for a Fahnrich in Wurtemberg artillery. Not the rarest hat but condition was fabulous. Unfortunately it came with 3 other helmets of lesser interest...

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Post by joerookery » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:20 am

Unfortunately it came with 3 other helmets of lesser interest...
Same issue on our side. We probably got six or eight in the lot and only wanted two. A selling opportunity! :thumb up:
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Post by randy trawnik » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:08 am

I just heard that the principle players and purchasers in the auction were a Mexican father and son, 2 European dealers and an active phone bidder. My BIG bid for the Mecklenburg General did not last 5 seconds. It was fun and exciting to see so many primo helmets at one time. I guess the market place for helmets is still there.

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randy trawnik wrote:I just heard that the principle players and purchasers in the auction were a Mexican father and son, 2 European dealers and an active phone bidder. My BIG bid for the Mecklenburg General did not last 5 seconds. It was fun and exciting to see so many primo helmets at one time. I guess the market place for helmets is still there.
I suppose these were the 2 spanish speaking gentlemen who were seated just in front of me and indeed did a lot of the in-room bidding. They paid (cash; I know because I was next in line) and disappeared once the last helmet had been auctioned.
The Mecklemburg General closed at $ 22,000, which makes a total of over $ 25,000 with buyer's premium added.

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Post by RoyA » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:11 pm

Actually, there was a Canadian bidder there who cherry-picked the lot. He walked away with the 12 best helmets in that auction.

He drove down to Maine for the viewing with a knowledgeable collector as his adviser. They examined every helmet he was interested in and 1/2 of what he was originally interested in he crossed off his list after his adviser examined them.
He paid cash and left with 12 untouched completely original and rare officer helmets. Hands-down the best 12 helmets in that auction.

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Post by 911car » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:32 pm

RoyA wrote:Actually, there was a Canadian bidder there who cherry-picked the lot. He walked away with the 12 best helmets in that auction.

He drove down to Maine for the viewing with a knowledgeable collector as his adviser. They examined every helmet he was interested in and 1/2 of what he was originally interested in he crossed off his list after his adviser examined them.
He paid cash and left with 12 untouched completely original and rare officer helmets. Hands-down the best 12 helmets in that auction.
Roy I would not say he left with the 12 best helmets! A number of those were bought on the phone (and I got one too...)
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Post by RoyA » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:42 pm

Of course Bruno...that was only the opinion of his advisor.
Best is defined by each individual's own set of criteria.

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Post by DougB » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:15 am

That Canadian Roy refers to would have been me, and by "best" I think it's safe to say that term Roy used was according to the personal and specific criteria I had, which didn't include any of the Mannschaften lots or General's helmets. I singled out some lots and was fortunate to win the lots I was after. Some good deals, some not so much, but it was an interesting and enjoyable experience save the white knuckle driving for 2 days after the auction was over.

I can confirm the auction had plenty of empty seats but the action was extremely vigorous.

This is what I came home with to add to my small but growing collection.
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Post by DougB » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:20 am

This was the viewing area, forgive the blurry iPhone pictures.

Also as a novice poster here, I'll have to figure out how to post the photos within a post vs this sorry.

Bruno you must have been right behind me as well, as I was behind the Mexican father and son when they paid as well, I saw their passports and spoke with them downstairs briefly when we picked up our lots together. A very nice couple of gentlemen.

Of note, if you left with your lot you had to pay Maine state tax adding another 5.5% to the total and of course I had to pay GST at the Canadian border, another 5%. But as I said, overall I am more than pleased with the helmets and prices cost averaged out were fair for what I had budgeted including all the premiums and taxes.

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Post by joerookery » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:22 am

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Welcome to the forum! I think there are a reasonable number of nice guys here. You have more than a modest little collection! Very nice. I do not envy you that drive but I think that the quality is higher than SOS. Glad you got something!

This is the helmet that I wanted – and got. It was also the reason for my discussion on the phone with Haskell long ago. I will be very interested to hold it in my hands. Sergio used to have it and then I went to Kube. I was asleep at the switch there.
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Post by DougB » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:01 pm

Thanks for the welcome Joe and congratulations to you and Bruno on winning the lots you targeted.

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Post by Redlegwolf » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:30 pm

Good lord, that's quite the collection. Nice haul! Maybe I should get into your business.

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Post by 911car » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:57 pm

Congratulations Doug. Quite a harvest indeed!
I was notably impressed by the IR115 helmet with white fittings you bought. Flawless condition. I own the very one pictured in Laine's book (the one that stands in front of your helmets on the picture you posted). Otherwise I would have tried to get this one for sure.
I avoided to pay the Maine tax by having the item shipped. I have not received it yet.
Interesting auction overall, despite the fact that I was grounded for 2 days by the snowstorm; flight cancelled 4 times in a row.
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Post by poniatowski » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:19 am

Hey Doug,

Welcome!
Nice buys indeed! Is there a mixture of fiber and leather helmets there? I don't know what you paid (and don't care), but I'd say every penny spent was well worth it. Beauties! Now, if we could get the guys from Mexico to join the forum! :)

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Post by WWI Collector » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:41 pm

[quote="DougB"] This is what I came home with to add to my small but growing collection.[/quote]

Small collection? I could only dream of finding some of those helmets you have on your table.

Is that a very rare Mecklenburg officer's helmet plate I see in the background in your home? And ulan and dragoon helmets plates too?

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Post by DougB » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:35 pm

Thanks Ron, yes a nice mix. Sachsen, Baden line infantry, Baden IR 109 Mannschaften, Baden FAR, Saxon LGR 100, Ruess IR 96, Hesse LGR 115, Sachsen Zahlmeister, Preußen GzF B1 reserve w/Uberzug, Preußen GzF B2/3 w/Uberzüg, GR4 and GR7 Reserve. A nice pickelhaul lol.

With these my small collection stands now at 35 Imperial pieces, mostly officers and as with my other collecting interests, I try to collect only top quality whenever possible.

The wappens you see in the background are a friend of mines, with my new helmets on his coffee table.

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Post by DougB » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:39 pm

Hi Bruno, I would have had them shipped but decided to bring them back. Yes I got stuck in Bangor myself, my rental car had 4" of ice encrusted snow in the morning and the drive back to Canada was not enjoyable.

I'm in LA once in a while, I have a place in Phoenix and we make the drive over to the LA area on occasion. A bit less snow where you are than Maine!

The IR115 is stunning indeed and the best of the ones I bought IMO. My compliments to your 115, it's always nice to have a published piece!

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Re: Robert H. Haskell III Estate Helmets on Julia Auction

Post by Jerry Rehr » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:08 am

Hi Doug.
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Re: Robert H. Haskell III Estate Helmets on Julia Auction

Post by DougB » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:35 am

Hey Jerry, didn't think I'd find you here! :thumb up:

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Re: Robert H. Haskell III Estate Helmets on Julia Auction

Post by joerookery » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:02 am

Hey Doug now with your "small collection" maybe you will think about coming to SOS next year. Best way to meet many of the players. You will even find Jerry there! :o
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Re: Robert H. Haskell III Estate Helmets on Julia Auction

Post by DougB » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:01 am

Hi Joe

I hope to make it to SOS next year, when I do go I am usually stuck hanging out with these unsavory German helmet collectors like Jerry. :P

I am trying to expand my collecting horizons with Imperial Officers pickelhaubes and meet more "normal" guys. :)

All above is just a joke of course, Jerry is a great fellow and have met him many times at the SOS. I am known in the German helmet collecting community, this is my "wall o' helmets", with my area of specific study SS helmets. I co-own with RoyA and another gent a helmet collecting forum called German Helmet Walhalla 2 as well, we have an Imperial section there where I have got to know Karel and maybe a few others here are also members there. It's always nice to see a familiar face!
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I have visited Karel and inspired by his wonderful collection and by my good friends Tony Schnurr and RoyA I have ventured into the realm of Imperial the past year or so. I don't have a current picture of my "pickelwall" but I'll take a quick snap and post one up.

It's a wonderful study and I enjoy this genre immensely. I'd love to meet some of the collectors of the genre at SOS, the social aspect of collecting is the most enjoyable part for me.

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Re: Robert H. Haskell III Estate Helmets on Julia Auction

Post by joerookery » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:03 pm

Great! We will see you there I hope. That certainly is a social gathering for us. As far as German Helmet Walhalla the administrators kicked me off there twice for non participation. So I guess I had nothing interesting to offer them. We travel quite a bit. Sort of abrupt treatment. Seems like a great idea to me to put all the forums together but that is not to be… :-k
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Re: Robert H. Haskell III Estate Helmets on Julia Auction

Post by DougB » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:33 pm

Hi Joe,

Yes it would be nice to have it all together I agree. The GHW2 forum filters non participants, nothing personal. It's just how it's set up and it simply deactivates the account which can be reactivated at any time by simply posting. Unless your talking about the old GHW forum that is but that forum is long gone now.

Anyway nice to "meet" you and maybe we'll meet for real at SOS.

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Re: Robert H. Haskell III Estate Helmets on Julia Auction

Post by J.LeBrasseur » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:20 pm

Hey Doug welcome to the forum! I am also one of your moderators as such on GHW in the Pickelhaube section with Roy (Puma)

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